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redster
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Posted: Sat 26 Jan, 2013 3:34 am

I cant answer about the gold nugget yet, i bought it this summer. I dont think winters will be a problem for me with it. Central alabama is hard to say, you might be pushing it. I hope it does great, may take a few years to find out.

My favorite, well considering my owari is out for the forseeable future, edible fruit just leaves the Sunburst really. My meyers are for cooking and juicing, and my ruby red is almost strictly cause of nostalgia and health benefits. Dont think id ever call it a favorite. In a few years i suspect the ponkan or gold nugget will get it. Im also considering a blood orange for the future so who knows, i have strange tastes, anything is possible.

Dam laaz i dont think i could give that many away, how many trees did those come from?

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ruby red grapefruit
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st ann satsuma
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Posted: Sat 26 Jan, 2013 11:06 am

I have, I think 20 satsuma tress, plus my two variegated satsumas.

The gold nugget is a poor choice for our area. It is a late mandarin & the fruit is destroyed almost every year by a freeze long before it is ripe.

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Posted: Sat 26 Jan, 2013 4:59 pm

redster, I think you could keep Gold Nugget from freezing but it would be more work than other Satsumas. You are already doing that with some of the things you are growing. LA Early hasn't done well around here, not good taste so early, Owari is suppose to be hard to beat. If you can get Xie Shan you would like it I think. The China 9 that I have seen has the best leaves around here but it's very acidic . Beautiful tree though. Brown Select is also very good around here. I want a Kishu mandarin . It has very small fruit but is very sweet . Tom

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redster
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Posted: Sat 26 Jan, 2013 6:00 pm

I think for most years freezing fruit wont be a problem. My main goal is to have fruit year round with not too much overlap so i need my gold nugget. I think i should have done brown select over the owari, but i didnt know much when i bought it and everything said it was the best so..im still waiting

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owari satsuma
ruby red grapefruit
sunburst tangerine
meyer lemon
ponkan mandarin
st ann satsuma
gold nugget mandarin
sour kumquat(potted)
21 pineapples
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Posted: Sat 26 Jan, 2013 6:56 pm

I think of bananas and pineapple as the holy grail of fruit as in hard to grow. I have had pineapple in Hawaii . It was unbelievable compared to what we buy in a grocery store. Does you home grown pineapple approach what you can get fresh in Hawaii ? Tom

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Posted: Sat 26 Jan, 2013 9:46 pm

Ive only made one pineapple so far but yes it was by far the best i ever had. Sweeter juicier riper than anything you can buy. Its really not hard to grow, once the crown roots you wait 3 years lol. My biggest concern is winter, i typically cover them up most cold nights.

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owari satsuma
ruby red grapefruit
sunburst tangerine
meyer lemon
ponkan mandarin
st ann satsuma
gold nugget mandarin
sour kumquat(potted)
21 pineapples
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Darkman
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Posted: Sat 09 Feb, 2013 10:22 pm

Tom wrote:
I think of bananas and pineapple as the holy grail of fruit as in hard to grow. Tom


Bananas are easy.

IF

you have the climate.

This year we only had winter for two days but that was enough to burn most of my banana leaves. I now have naked P-stems with blooms and bananas. Fortunately the taller ones protected the smaller ones and I should have blooms coming out all year.

This Winter, how warm was it? I have some fig trees that still have leaves.

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Posted: Sun 10 Feb, 2013 12:30 am

The normal reason why Satsumas become puffy, is because they are left hanging on the tree too long. However, in your case it could also be due to this being the first crop the tree has ever produced. Mandarins, (Satsumas) are actually internally mature and ready to eat before the fruit becomes orange in color. - Millet
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Posted: Sun 10 Feb, 2013 1:38 am

Millet wrote:
The normal reason why Satsumas become puffy, is because they are left hanging on the tree too long. However, in your case it could also be due to this being the first crop the tree has ever produced. Mandarins, (Satsumas) are actually internally mature and ready to eat before the fruit becomes orange in color. - Millet


Having heard both you, Laaz and others say this I know it is true,

SO

is experimental trying the best indicator of when to pick

or when there is just a slight color break

or do you just have to learn each one?

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Posted: Sun 10 Feb, 2013 12:05 pm

Experimental tasting is a very common method. Color is also valuble. -Millet
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Posted: Sun 10 Feb, 2013 12:16 pm

Even a mature satsuma tree will produce the odd huge puffy fruit once in a while.

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Posted: Sat 23 Feb, 2013 12:12 pm

This sounds like Scab. It is common on mature satsumas, and is not just on the fruit but also on the leaves (looks like small brown warts on the leaves). Once the tree has scab it will continue to have it until treated. The treatment is copper spray, first application when 75% petals have fallen, then 2 weeks later. There are other application that can be used but start with this. Don't water by overhead sprinkler until June 1, which at that time the fruit and leaves will have matured and less likely to become infected. On the amount of fruit per tree we've picked over 1000 pieces per tree many time in our orchard (250+ trees) so amount of fruit isn't the problem.
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