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Darkman Citruholic
Joined: 20 Jul 2010 Posts: 966 Location: Pensacola Florida South of I-10 Zone 8b/9a
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Posted: Fri 27 Apr, 2012 10:02 am |
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I have some branch tips (about 6" to 9") that were left over from grafting some Loquats. I want to root them. What methods will work and which one is best?
Specifically,
Will they root in water?
Will they root is Sphagnum Moss?
EDIT/UPDATE
Saturday May 12, 2012
ALL of the tip cuttings are no longer viable. The leaves slowly turned brown. There was no evidence of an attempt to produce roots. This was in water.
_________________ Charles in Pensacola
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Ned Citrus Guru
Joined: 14 Nov 2005 Posts: 999 Location: Port Royal, SC (Zone 8b)
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Posted: Tue 01 May, 2012 8:50 pm |
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I have rooted them under mist with difficulty - maybe 20% success. 6" mature tip cuttings seem to work best. I scar the basal end and used dip & Grow, but I would guess any rooting hormone would do.
Chip grafting, after the weather cools in the fall, works much better than rooting. I have also used a cleft graft with good success. With chip buds I leave the leaf on, but cut it down it to about 1" to 1.5" in length. With cleft grafts, I cover the graft with plastic (using a plastic bag) until it takes, but the chip bud seems to do OK leaving the reduced leaf expose. |
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Chris Citruholic
Joined: 26 Jul 2010 Posts: 92 Location: coastal San Diego sunset 24
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Posted: Thu 03 May, 2012 9:51 pm |
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they are very difficult to root.
graft 'em |
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Darkman Citruholic
Joined: 20 Jul 2010 Posts: 966 Location: Pensacola Florida South of I-10 Zone 8b/9a
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Posted: Thu 03 May, 2012 10:40 pm |
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Well the tips I tried to root are slowly turning brown. Which makes me reconsider what I thought I bought. Originally I thought I had bought seedlings but when I saw the thickness of the trunk below ground, the angled cut at the base and the tangled mass of roots I thought they had rooted a branch. I now know that isn't likely or even possible.
SOOOOO
I now believe these were air layered branches that I purchased as seedlings. One thing for sure is they are not seedlings. _________________ Charles in Pensacola
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Millet Citruholic
Joined: 13 Nov 2005 Posts: 6657 Location: Colorado
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Posted: Thu 03 May, 2012 11:47 pm |
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I've not heard of people rooting Loquant very much. Loquats are warm weather plants from China which grows very easily from seed, that are planted directly from fresh fruits. Trees used only for ornamental purposes are grown from seed, as are seedlings used as understocks. Improved varieties of loquats, however, are T-budded or whip grafted on seedlings, or grafted on an older tree. Loquats can also be grafted on quince seedlings in order to obtain a dwarf tree. They may also be propagated by air layering, using rooting chemicals on the layered part. Finely cleft grafting is also sometimes used. - Millet (260 B)-) |
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Darkman Citruholic
Joined: 20 Jul 2010 Posts: 966 Location: Pensacola Florida South of I-10 Zone 8b/9a
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Posted: Fri 04 May, 2012 12:00 pm |
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My best plan at this time is to acquire seeds and plant them. If I plant the seeds soon will they be able to be grafted on next spring? _________________ Charles in Pensacola
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Chris Citruholic
Joined: 26 Jul 2010 Posts: 92 Location: coastal San Diego sunset 24
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Posted: Sat 12 May, 2012 1:27 pm |
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Yes. I would recommend that. Remember to leave a couple of leaves below the graft and wait till it really starts pushing growth. I've had much greater success like that. |
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Darkman Citruholic
Joined: 20 Jul 2010 Posts: 966 Location: Pensacola Florida South of I-10 Zone 8b/9a
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Posted: Sat 12 May, 2012 2:19 pm |
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EDIT/UPDATE
Saturday May 12, 2012
ALL of the tip cuttings are no longer viable. The leaves slowly turned brown. There was no evidence of an attempt to produce roots. This was in water.
I'll attempt to continue grafting on the potted trees I have and raise some seedlings for my permanent trees.
Thanks for all the replies and suggestions. _________________ Charles in Pensacola
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