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mrtexas
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Posted: Wed 09 Jan, 2008 11:55 pm

I was juicing my Whittakers' gold grapefruit tonight and found this one:
They must have been a sport of white grapefruit!

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Posted: Thu 10 Jan, 2008 2:45 am

Very Interesting? What does the gold fruit the taste like?

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Posted: Thu 10 Jan, 2008 11:43 pm

Wow-that is neat-I have never seen a grapefruit like that.

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Posted: Fri 11 Jan, 2008 1:29 am

Could you explain a "sport" and comment on whether you think the seeds on the white side would have different genetics than those on the colored side? Thanks, Barbara
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Posted: Fri 11 Jan, 2008 3:20 am

First time I've seen a grapefruit that is orange flesh colored. Most I've seen are pigmented towards the pink or red, and also the whites and yellow to yellow green. I would have mistaken it as an orange, except for the one with the striped flesh.
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Posted: Fri 11 Jan, 2008 11:45 am

Barb, a sport is a modified genetic version of a plant that may or may not be expressed at any particular time. Once to modification occurs, it may or may not be expressed (visible), but both versions are often retained in the genetic code. A good example is in African Violets, where some bi-colored flowered varieties will switch back and forth between the solid and bi-colored versions, especially when they are propagated.

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Posted: Fri 11 Jan, 2008 12:47 pm

That's really interesting. Did the two different colors have different tastes?

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Posted: Fri 11 Jan, 2008 1:43 pm

We have to get Mr Texas to tell us that. I noticed something else interesting-- seeds near the outer edge--I don't think I have ever seen that before -- is that normal?

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Posted: Fri 11 Jan, 2008 1:54 pm

Skeet, so the seeds on both the white and orange segments will more likely than not have the same chances at carrying on the genetic anomaly?

If the tree produced a branch with several fruit like this, and the balance of the tree did not, would it be a similar situation to a tree producing a variegated tree branch? Thanks, Barbara
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Posted: Sun 13 Jan, 2008 1:24 pm

The taste is very mild with little to any grapefruit bitterness, the grapefruit for those who don't like grapefruit. I juiced all the fruit so didn't taste any white flesh.
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Posted: Sun 13 Jan, 2008 2:29 pm

Skeet I think the seeds are there from cutting it open, I don't think the fruit produced seed on the outer edge.

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Posted: Sun 13 Jan, 2008 7:51 pm

bastrees wrote:
Skeet, so the seeds on both the white and orange segments will more likely than not have the same chances at carrying on the genetic anomaly?

If the tree produced a branch with several fruit like this, and the balance of the tree did not, would it be a similar situation to a tree producing a variegated tree branch? Thanks, Barbara



Most of my experience with plants that produce "sports" come from african violets and I have seen a violet with white and purple pin wheel flowers go back to solid purple and then back to producing pin wheel flowers. I think it is similar to a variegated branch, but may have a different cause. However, the term "sport" also applies to somatic mutations that may not be reversible. This grapeftuit may be an example of a chimera.

Here is a link that may help--- I copied a section from that link below--http://www.globalgardens.com/mutations-a.html

Sport

A sport is part of a plant (an offset) that deviates from the rest of the plant. Actually "sport" is a convenient term used by gardeners, but it is not a genetic term. It is the end result of an earlier genetic process. In a sport the change has taken place in a leafbud (mitose), not in the flower (meiose). Three processes can be responsible for a sport to arise. In most cases it will be due to somatic recombination or chimaeral rearrangements and rarely due to a (back) mutation. Most sports can therefore only be propagated vegetatively. So a sport can be a chimaera, but also a recombination or rarely a mutant. A seedling is by definition never a sport.

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