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bodavid Citruholic
Joined: 30 Apr 2007 Posts: 67 Location: kuwait
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Posted: Thu 10 May, 2012 8:10 am |
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what are PROS & CONS of these Rootstocks?
valencia orange
moroblood
singuinelli
pummelo
is there a web site that compare different rootstocks characteristics that are helpfull ? |
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Laaz Site Owner
Joined: 12 Nov 2005 Posts: 5642 Location: Dorchester County, South Carolina
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Posted: Thu 10 May, 2012 10:45 am |
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The only one you have listed that is sometimes used as a rootstock is Pomelo. _________________ Wal-Mart a great place to buy cheap plastic crap ! http://walmartwatch.com/ ...
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igor.fogarasi Moderator
Joined: 11 Apr 2011 Posts: 553 Location: Novi Sad, Serbia
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Posted: Thu 10 May, 2012 11:54 am |
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I'm not sure of its compatibility with other scions, though... It's said to be the least compatible citrus rootstock overall. |
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Laaz Site Owner
Joined: 12 Nov 2005 Posts: 5642 Location: Dorchester County, South Carolina
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Posted: Thu 10 May, 2012 12:04 pm |
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Fourwinds growers uses Cuban Shaddock on most of their dwarf varieties, which is a pomelo hybrid. _________________ Wal-Mart a great place to buy cheap plastic crap ! http://walmartwatch.com/ ...
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pagnr Citrus Guru
Joined: 23 Aug 2008 Posts: 407 Location: Australia
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Posted: Thu 10 May, 2012 6:10 pm |
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sweet orange is used as a rootstock, the valencia, moro and sanguinelli would probably all be similar, if they are vigorous enough as seedlings.
Cuban shaddock is probably closer to lemon than true pummelo. |
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Laaz Site Owner
Joined: 12 Nov 2005 Posts: 5642 Location: Dorchester County, South Carolina
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Posted: Thu 10 May, 2012 6:20 pm |
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I don't know anyone in the US that uses any type of sweet orange as a rootstock.
Is this common in Australia ? _________________ Wal-Mart a great place to buy cheap plastic crap ! http://walmartwatch.com/ ...
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pagnr Citrus Guru
Joined: 23 Aug 2008 Posts: 407 Location: Australia
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Posted: Fri 11 May, 2012 4:12 am |
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I looked up the 2010 Auscitrus report for certified seed sales, total 900kg, about 350kg troyer and carrizo, 310kg trifoliata 36kg rough lemon, 10 kg cleopatra mandarin, 3kgsweet orange, 2.2kg rangpur lime, plus other vars to make up the 900.
The seed count for sweet is about 2700 per litre, so 8 or 9 thousand seed total. That has probably dropped a lot from previous years??
Willits and Newcomb in USA listed Pineapple sweet orange as a rootstock seed var |
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bodavid Citruholic
Joined: 30 Apr 2007 Posts: 67 Location: kuwait
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Posted: Fri 11 May, 2012 4:46 am |
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I liked to share this link Which provided detailed differences betweeen rootstocks
CITRUS PROPAGATION AND ROOTSTOCKS
BY DR. MARTIN L. PRICE, EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR
http://www.ultimatecitrus.com/pdf/tncitrus.htm |
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pagnr Citrus Guru
Joined: 23 Aug 2008 Posts: 407 Location: Australia
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Posted: Fri 11 May, 2012 7:26 pm |
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Bodavid, are you propagating for in ground or containers?? Also you ask about "market fruit", what else is available? How about seedy orange like Shamouti, Joppa , Jaffa etc, or sour orange ?narenji? or Palestine sweet lime? |
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Laaz Site Owner
Joined: 12 Nov 2005 Posts: 5642 Location: Dorchester County, South Carolina
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Posted: Fri 11 May, 2012 9:22 pm |
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pagnr wrote: | Willits and Newcomb in USA listed Pineapple sweet orange as a rootstock seed var |
Yes I see that, but they don't offer any of their trees grafted to it.
http://www.wncitrus.com/products_farmtrees_varieties.php
Quote: | Varieties can be grafted onto the following rootstocks:
Carrizo Citrange
C-35 Citrange
Flying Dragon Trifoliate
Macrophylla
Trifoliate
Volkameriana |
Like I said, I don't know of a single grower that uses sweet orange (Citrus sinensis) as a rootstock. _________________ Wal-Mart a great place to buy cheap plastic crap ! http://walmartwatch.com/ ...
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jrb Citruholic
Joined: 30 Dec 2008 Posts: 165 Location: Idaho Falls, ID zone 4A
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Posted: Fri 11 May, 2012 10:37 pm |
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My understanding is sweet orange used to be used as a rootstock and is known to produce good quality fruit but is highly susceptible to phytopthora root and foot rot so it has fallen out of favor as a rootstock.
I have read that some people question whether Cuban shaddock actually has any pummelo in it even though it is called a shaddock. I don't know if any genetic analysis has ever been done on it. Some people think it is really a citron hybrid. I have had some Cuban shaddock rootstock suckers grow on some of my trees. The leaves are very large but the petioles are very short and completely wingless. _________________ Jim
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bodavid Citruholic
Joined: 30 Apr 2007 Posts: 67 Location: kuwait
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Posted: Sat 12 May, 2012 6:58 am |
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pagnr wrote: | Bodavid, are you propagating for in ground or containers?? Also you ask about "market fruit", what else is available? How about seedy orange like Shamouti, Joppa , Jaffa etc, or sour orange ?narenji? or Palestine sweet lime? |
Pagnr, iam propogating for inground. Unfortunatly these varieties is not available in market. Although i got some Shamouti buwood from a friend which i grafted a month ago. Persian lime,grapefruit, is also availabe. |
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pagnr Citrus Guru
Joined: 23 Aug 2008 Posts: 407 Location: Australia
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Posted: Sat 12 May, 2012 6:12 pm |
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Lazz, that's a fair point. I was surprised the ammount of sweet orange now used was so low over here. I guess Bodavid may not be easily able to source other rootstock seed? |
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Laaz Site Owner
Joined: 12 Nov 2005 Posts: 5642 Location: Dorchester County, South Carolina
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Posted: Sat 12 May, 2012 9:49 pm |
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pagnr the only reason I bring this up, is from my experience sweet orange has a bad problem with foot rot. In a dry climate they may be fine, but here in the southeast US we get torrential rains in the summer & sweet orange has always gotten foot rot for me. _________________ Wal-Mart a great place to buy cheap plastic crap ! http://walmartwatch.com/ ...
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