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tolumnia
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Posted: Fri 22 Feb, 2008 6:58 pm

I think I read somewhere not to use a foliar spray when the tree has open flowers on it. It is time for me to start my spring fertilizer program, and I used to spray with a micro nutrient spray each spring, but now I am wondering if this would harm developing buds, flowers, or young fruit.

Any suggestions?
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Posted: Sat 23 Feb, 2008 1:16 am

It is really better to apply KNO3 about a month before bloom time as a foliar spray --it is suppose to support bloom formation.

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Posted: Sat 23 Feb, 2008 2:49 am

Skeeter wrote:
It is really better to apply KNO3 about a month before bloom time as a foliar spray --it is suppose to support bloom formation.


From the advice that I got on this group, I used KNO3 about a month before bloom and GA3 during the bloom. My end result was a bumper crop this year. I can't thank the members of this group enough for sharing their knowledge. I have a cousin from North Dakota in town this week and I found myself giving citrus lessons at dinner tonight. They have -23 degrees back where they are so I suspect they won't be growing citrus any time soon (unless Millet moves there).

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Posted: Mon 25 Feb, 2008 6:44 pm

Tolumnia, let me give you an "unclear" answer. I cannot say from experience about spraying trace elements per Se during bloom, as I normally spray Potassium Nitrate/trace mineral about 4-6 months prior to the expected bloom date. However, I will add that I do spray during bloom with Gibberellic Acid to set the fruit, and I have sprayed Sevin insecticide to control aphid outbreaks, with no damage of any kind to the blooms, even open blooms. I don't think I would recommend spraying horticulture oil during bloom, but personally, I would not be afraid of spraying trace minerals during bloom. However, it CERTAINLY all depends on the intensity of the sprayer you use. If your sprayer puts out a forceful spray, the booms might get damaged due to the pressure from the sprayer. I don't *THINK* that the trace minerals themselves would cause any problem. However, you should first spray just a portion of one your trees, and wait for a day or two to ascertain the results. - Millet
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Scott K.
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Posted: Mon 25 Feb, 2008 11:56 pm

poor bees!

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Millet
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Posted: Tue 26 Feb, 2008 11:48 am

Bees in Colorado in the middle of winter????? It still snowing in Colorado. - Millet
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Malcolm_Manners
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Posted: Tue 26 Feb, 2008 1:59 pm

Commercial growers in Florida, South Africa (where this was discovered) and Brazil often use a high-purity foliar spray of urea in January. That can dramatically increase bloom and fruit set in mid- to late-March for us. Always urea, never nitrate. I'm not sure why. I seem to recall reports of up to 20% increase in yield.

While root systems cannot absorb or use urea directly, leaves of citrus do. So there is no ammonification or nitrification involved.

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MeyerLemon
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Posted: Thu 20 Mar, 2008 12:57 pm

Foliar spray of urea in january is really interesting.
Is there any detailed information on this subject, any web article?

Thanks,
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Skeeter
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Posted: Thu 20 Mar, 2008 6:14 pm

I have been using a 2% solution of KNO3--what is the recommended concentration of urea?

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Posted: Thu 20 Mar, 2008 6:50 pm

I suspect spraying urea is a lot less expensive than spraying potassium nitrate. A secondary, benefit from spraying KNO3, as reported in the proceedings of the Florida State Horticultural Society, is that additionally, KNO3 applications produces a greater number of larger sized fruit. The study showed that trees receiving the KNO3 applications had over 30% more size 100 and larger fruit, and generally averaged $5.00 more per tree due to fruit size increase. - Millet
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dauben
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Posted: Fri 21 Mar, 2008 1:12 am

Millet wrote:
I suspect spraying urea is a lot less expensive than spraying potassium nitrate. A secondary, benefit from spraying KNO3, as reported in the proceedings of the Florida State Horticultural Society, is that additionally, KNO3 applications produces a greater number of larger sized fruit. The study showed that trees receiving the KNO3 applications had over 30% more size 100 and larger fruit, and generally averaged $5.00 more per tree due to fruit size increase. - Millet


Can you spray KNO3 during bloom? I know you said you normally spray 4-6 months before expected bloom, but I wasn't expecting a bloom right now. Any benefit? Any damage?

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Millet
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Posted: Fri 21 Mar, 2008 1:52 am

Spraying during bloom with anything is risky, and normally not done. KNO3 is sprayed 2 months prior to bloom. I do not know for sure, but spraying KNO3 at this time might not give you all the added benefits, of an earlier spray, because the bloom are already here. But like I say I am not sure. - Millet
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Posted: Wed 26 Mar, 2008 8:25 pm


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MeyerLemon
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Posted: Mon 31 Mar, 2008 6:02 am

Thanks for the information and the links Smile
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