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jcaldeira Citruholic
Joined: 06 Jan 2012 Posts: 98 Location: Fiji Islands
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Posted: Sun 28 Oct, 2012 6:35 pm |
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Last year I planted a Sour Orange seedling with Meyer Lemon and Tahitian Lime grafted on. A few weeks ago I added Valencia and Navel Orange, and Satsuma Mandarin. All grafts appear to be taking, so I'm really happy about this.
The lemon branch already has a few tiny fruit. What fun!
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Laaz Site Owner
Joined: 12 Nov 2005 Posts: 5671 Location: Dorchester County, South Carolina
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Posted: Sun 28 Oct, 2012 6:59 pm |
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Once the tree grows out, you will have a very lopsided tree. This is the problem with citrus "cocktail" trees. _________________ Wal-Mart a great place to buy cheap plastic crap ! http://walmartwatch.com/ ...
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jcaldeira Citruholic
Joined: 06 Jan 2012 Posts: 98 Location: Fiji Islands
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Posted: Sun 28 Oct, 2012 7:25 pm |
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Laaz wrote: | Once the tree grows out, you will have a very lopsided tree. This is the problem with citrus "cocktail" trees. |
What causes it to be lopsided? Can pruning help? |
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Laaz Site Owner
Joined: 12 Nov 2005 Posts: 5671 Location: Dorchester County, South Carolina
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Posted: Sun 28 Oct, 2012 7:30 pm |
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Different varieties grow at different rates. Yes pruning helps, but also affects the fruit production. I have yet to see a cocktail tree that looks good. _________________ Wal-Mart a great place to buy cheap plastic crap ! http://walmartwatch.com/ ...
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igor.fogarasi Moderator
Joined: 11 Apr 2011 Posts: 559 Location: Novi Sad, Serbia
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Posted: Mon 29 Oct, 2012 9:52 am |
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John, it's a really nice tree. Congratulations! Perhaps, you should try looking for different scions which tend to have a similar growth habit. For instance, grafting several kumquat hybrids onto the same rootstock (e.g. kumquat, limequat, mandarinquat, etc) should work just fine, producing an all around, well balanced tree. However, without a good year round pruning program, even a non-cocktail tree might soon enough develop a lopsided look, so on the other hand, it's a must.
Good luck with your trees.
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Millet Citruholic
Joined: 13 Nov 2005 Posts: 6657 Location: Colorado
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Posted: Mon 29 Oct, 2012 11:55 am |
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John, do as you wish with your tree, but I would not do much pruning to your tree if indeed your aim is to receive a good crop of fruit. Citrus fruit only develop on new wood, the more you prune a citrus tree the more you keep removing the new wood. Which would you rather have, a perfect looking specimen tree with little fruit, or a tree that will reward you with a good crop of fruit to enjoy? - Millet 76 |
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jcaldeira Citruholic
Joined: 06 Jan 2012 Posts: 98 Location: Fiji Islands
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Posted: Mon 29 Oct, 2012 1:02 pm |
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Millet wrote: | . . . . Which would you rather have, a perfect looking specimen tree with little fruit, or a tree that will reward you with a good crop of fruit to enjoy? - Millet 76 |
It's mostly a novelty tree. I'll prune every few years if it gets very ugly.
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Millet Citruholic
Joined: 13 Nov 2005 Posts: 6657 Location: Colorado
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Posted: Mon 29 Oct, 2012 5:05 pm |
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Joe Real grew a Cocktail Citrus tree in his California back yard with over 100 different citrus varieties grafted upon it. His cocktail tree still grew to a rather round shape. - Millet 76 |
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jcaldeira Citruholic
Joined: 06 Jan 2012 Posts: 98 Location: Fiji Islands
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Posted: Mon 29 Oct, 2012 6:28 pm |
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My thinking is that the pruning will be mostly to prevent the most vigorous branches/varieties from dominating too much. |
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igor.fogarasi Moderator
Joined: 11 Apr 2011 Posts: 559 Location: Novi Sad, Serbia
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Posted: Tue 30 Oct, 2012 3:11 pm |
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Yes, your thinking is on the right track! |
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citrusguy Citruholic
Joined: 30 Oct 2012 Posts: 31 Location: 7a
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Posted: Mon 26 Nov, 2012 5:20 am |
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jcaldeira wrote: | Last year I planted a Sour Orange seedling with Meyer Lemon and Tahitian Lime grafted on. A few weeks ago I added Valencia and Navel Orange, and Satsuma Mandarin. All grafts appear to be taking, so I'm really happy about this.
The lemon branch already has a few tiny fruit. What fun!
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To be honest, this mainly why I got into growing citrus (besides being from Florida). Actually, I had gotten a chance to witness a Mango orchard in India a couple years back on a trip that had multiple varieties. I mean, I seen apples and that sort of thing, but was shocked that so many varieties existed or rather were preserved throughout time, and were able to be successfully grafted and harvested
Really inspiring work you got there, Mr. JCaldeira. Beautiful background picture too.
Millet wrote: | Joe Real grew a Cocktail Citrus tree in his California back yard with over 100 different citrus varieties grafted upon it. His cocktail tree still grew to a rather round shape. - Millet 76 |
Any pictures on this ?! What's next... |
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Sanguinello Gest
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Posted: Mon 26 Nov, 2012 2:47 pm |
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The more sorts you have on a tree, the harder the balance.
Nurseries do cocktail trees with 2 or 3 sorts which have same growth. |
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citrusguy Citruholic
Joined: 30 Oct 2012 Posts: 31 Location: 7a
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Posted: Mon 26 Nov, 2012 4:47 pm |
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Sanguinello wrote: | The more sorts you have on a tree, the harder the balance.
Nurseries do cocktail trees with 2 or 3 sorts which have same growth. | 2 or 3 is ideal recommended or the standard? Have come across citrus fruit cocktail with 5, even one with 6 (at a nursery) -- [I believe were] Key Lime, some kind of lemon, Navel and Valencia Oranges, ....some with tangelo, tangerine, grapefruit, and others. |
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Sanguinello Gest
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Posted: Mon 26 Nov, 2012 4:49 pm |
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Yes, most do limit it such ... so it is easy to keep in shape and not cut away all your new wood and get plenty fruits. |
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Millet Citruholic
Joined: 13 Nov 2005 Posts: 6657 Location: Colorado
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Posted: Mon 26 Nov, 2012 7:29 pm |
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My thought is, if you want a perfect looking citrus tree, grow most any variety of citrus you desire. If however, you want a cocktail tree that produces many varieties of fruit, why would you care how it looks. The reason for growing a cocktail tree is for its many varieties of fruit production coming from a single tree, its unusual specialty interest, but certainly not to make the tree look like every other citrus tree growing in the world.
Citrusguy, there are three or four pictures of Joe Real's 100 in 1 citrus tree on this forum. Use the search function to locate them.
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