Idolitary

Those statistics are very sad. I wonder if a correlation has ever been researched on the relationship between public assistance v. literacy and v. illegitimacy?

Barbara

> 72% of all babies born in Detroit are illegitimate.
What do you mean by "illegitimate"?

> 67% of Detroit's population does not have a high school diploma.
Maybe the fact that you have to pay?

> 50% are termed as being functionally illiterate.
You mean US educational system is not the best?

Illigitimate: Out of wedlock.

Pay: I would venture to guess that 98% of the 67% are on public assistance and have never even paid for a lunch. We "pay" through real estate taxes and government subsidies, not tuition.

Best: Unfortunately, US education has not been superior since the unions took over the priorities of the education system. Education is not the priority to the unions; job security for good and bad teachers, free benefits and......union dues are much more important. Education is their facade.

Barbara

Clear answer.
By the way I discovered that my five daughters are illigitimates!
I must tell them.

i know an African American that has 13 children from 8 different women.

there was an article i read i think it was on NPR.org about how rare it is for African Americans to get married i do not have time to look for that article right now.

> Healthy man!
It's much easier for men to make children than for women....

Fred,

I agree with you about the parents, but contend that job security makes for job apathy. And when one has job apathy, and started out and continued to be an inferior educator, it is a lethal combination for the children.

As far as the parents go, I am sad to say that many contribute to, and indeed begin, the problem. Many of those are the single parent and public assistance families also discussed in this thread.

As a body, most union votes break in favor of the union's recommendations. The union does not promote the position that best favors the students, nor does it promote the position that best favors the union members. It promotes the position that best favors the union. In many cases, the 2nd and 3rd work in tandem (but never kid yourself which one is the position maker), but rarely does the 1st even get considered.

In my opinion, unions had their place in the history of America's work force. The structure that they helped develop has created our current safety standards and other work and pay standards. Currently, however, they are just in it for the money. The standards have been set, and they no longer contribute. They are a cancer sucking the life out of the American worker (and in this case also the children), consumer and taxpayer.

Barbara

Everyone has a right to their own opinions--

I have found most people have s seriously distorted view of unions and almost 100% of the time it is ignorance. (lack of accurate info / knowledge)

It really all boils down to my first response--Idolatry-- the overwhelming majority of citizens of our society are ate up with it.

I come from a union family, born and bred. I understand them, too well, I suppose. I've seen how they foster the environment for otherwise decent people to justify their lack of effort.

Quote:

Everyone has a right to their own opinions--

- except when you belong to a union.

But that's just my opinion...

Barbara

Well this thread has certainly pushed my buttons. I don't even no where to start.

My wife works in the education system. The unions primary goal is a by product of what they specialize in. They specialize in making sure that WPOS get to keep their job when they really should be fired. The WPOS then feels whatever stupid thing they did was acceptable and will do it again. Since he did not get fired you will have other WPOS do the same thing. The system can not learn from its mistakes and fire the new WPOS because they have now set precedent and they can deal no more harshly with the new WPOS than they did with the original WPOS. My wife was the union president and I work in a unionized group. I will not even join. It makes me sick to see the union at work. It is no wonder that our factories are so inefficient that they can not compete with non union shops. When unions were created they were needed and it was a good thing. Not now. They are now a leech sucking America dry. Oh the byproduct! That is the dues. The bar gets lower and lower so that anyone can do the job. It's everybodys right to work! RIGHT? Some people are too stupid or lazy or both. What happened to my rights?

Solution to unemployment. Take 20% and make them watch the kids of the 80% who now have no choice but to work (if they want benefits) doing the most undersirable no skill requiring jobs. Don't worry we have plenty I see trash every day while I go to work averaging 50 - 60 hours a week and I don't get overtime either but it pays the bills. Half of them will quit the first week and so will their benefits. NO WORKEE NO MONEY!!! Maybe you should have paid attention in school. Oh I'm sorry that was your parents fault.

The parents FAULT. Some of it. BUT the big problem is social degradation of morality. I'm not even going to open that can. TOO BIG and not enough blood pressure pills.

AMERICA THE LAND OF THE OFFENDED.

Why don't you take your thin skinned *ss and go to another country that believes like you do.........

THAT'S RIGHT! No other country would put up with your self serving BS.

Want to argue that point.

MOVE and tell me how it works out.

OH and How's that hopey changey thing working out?

The Republicans are no saints but it is the best of the two evils and ain’t no other group perfect either. When our current leader has been replaced we will have a little bit better of a chance at turning the flow of liberalism or at least slowing it down. Unfortunately it is so far entrenched into our society that we are over the hill going down hill without brakes.

OK I’m going to stop now (No I’m not through but I do not believe that the server has enough memory space nor do I have enough days left on earth to win this fight) and put on my bullet proof clothing and my fire suit.

Feel free to blast away.