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Citrus Fruits And Their Culture by H. Harold Hume
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Ivannn Citruholic
Joined: 14 May 2009 Posts: 176 Location: Bologna, Italy
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Posted: Mon 27 Dec, 2010 11:30 am |
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I am interested in buying this book, does anyone of you guys know or can suggest wether it is a good book or not?! My main purpose is to have detailed and updated information on citrus nutrition, climate rquirements and container cultivation.
Thanks in advance, Ivan |
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Malcolm_Manners Citrus Guru
Joined: 13 Nov 2005 Posts: 676 Location: Lakeland Florida
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Posted: Mon 27 Dec, 2010 1:29 pm |
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Hume's book was quite good when it was written, but now it's very much out of date.
Its current equivalent is Citrus Growing in Florida, by Frederick S. Davies and Larry K. Jackson. |
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citrange Site Admin
Joined: 24 Nov 2005 Posts: 590 Location: UK - 15 miles west of London
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Posted: Mon 27 Dec, 2010 1:30 pm |
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Beware!
This is an interesting book but only if you are interested in citrus history!
It was originally published up to 1911 and is up-to-date only to that year!
There is an increasing trend to re-publish paperback copies of historic books without really making clear what is being offered. They are offered as 'new' but are actually scanned or OCR'd copies of the original, and printed 'on demand'.
I guess this is what you have seen.
If you visit a web bookseller like abe.com you will find lots of copies of this 'new' book, with a few original copies mixed in. The content is the same.
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Ivannn Citruholic
Joined: 14 May 2009 Posts: 176 Location: Bologna, Italy
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Posted: Mon 27 Dec, 2010 2:21 pm |
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Thank you both for the precious info! I'm not going to buy it then...
Any suggestion on books that discuss in depth the argument of citrus growing in container?! Does Citrus Growing in Florida discuss this topic?!
Thanks again! |
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Malcolm_Manners Citrus Guru
Joined: 13 Nov 2005 Posts: 676 Location: Lakeland Florida
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Posted: Mon 27 Dec, 2010 2:58 pm |
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Jackson and Davies' book certainly does not emphasize container-growing -- it's really about the Florida commercial industry. But much of the basic information would be the same. Still, if you specifically want a book on how to grow containerized citrus, this is likely not the one you want. |
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Ivannn Citruholic
Joined: 14 May 2009 Posts: 176 Location: Bologna, Italy
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Posted: Mon 27 Dec, 2010 4:50 pm |
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Malcolm_Manners wrote: | Jackson and Davies' book certainly does not emphasize container-growing -- it's really about the Florida commercial industry. But much of the basic information would be the same. Still, if you specifically want a book on how to grow containerized citrus, this is likely not the one you want. |
Thank you so much Malcolm, i think this book would be a good choice anyway, container or not.
Bye, Ivan |
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Millet Citruholic
Joined: 13 Nov 2005 Posts: 6657 Location: Colorado
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Posted: Mon 27 Dec, 2010 6:53 pm |
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I have the book "Citrus Growing in Florida", by Frederick S. Davies and Larry K. Jackson. I would rate it as -- helpful -- but personally I would give it a rating as being just fair+. Currently in my library, are 35 books on citrus. I would rate the book "Biology Of Citrus" by P. Spiegel Roy, and E.E. Goldschmidt as the best of them all, giving it a rating of excellent. As far as I know there is no book of any real value written for container citrus growing. However, Dr. Carl E. Whitcomb PhD has published a 1,129 page book titled "Plant Production In Containers-II" which is the best book that I have read concerning the growing of trees in containers. Although the book does not deal with citrus per se, it does provide the full spectrum of growing trees in containers. Dr. Whitcomb's book is a little self serving, but still it is EXCELLENT. I have learned more from this particular book, on the growth of trees in containers, than from all the other books on container growing that I have ever read. Dr. Whitcomb's book advises what to do, but more importantly WHY it should be done. - Millet 748-) |
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Ivannn Citruholic
Joined: 14 May 2009 Posts: 176 Location: Bologna, Italy
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Posted: Mon 27 Dec, 2010 7:35 pm |
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Millet wrote: | I have the book "Citrus Growing in Florida", by Frederick S. Davies and Larry K. Jackson. I would rate it as -- helpful -- but personally I would give it a rating as being just fair+. Currently in my library, are 35 books on citrus. I would rate the book "Biology Of Citrus" by P. Spiegel Roy, and E.E. Goldschmidt as the best of them all, giving it a rating of excellent. As far as I know there is no book of any real value written for container citrus growing. However, Dr. Carl E. Whitcomb PhD has published a 1,129 page book titled "Plant Production In Containers-II" which is the best book that I have read concerning the growing of trees in containers. Although the book does not deal with citrus per se, it does provide the full spectrum of growing trees in containers. Dr. Whitcomb's book is a little self serving, but still it is EXCELLENT. I have learned more from this particular book, on the growth of trees in containers, than from all the other books on container growing that I have ever read. Dr. Whitcomb's book advises what to do, but more importantly WHY it should be done. - Millet 748-) |
Millet, thanks for your answer. I remember you talked about this book (Plants production in containers) in a discussion a few days ago, and i searched information on that...the only thing that was making me "double think" on the purchase was the price. Your answer is making me think for a third time though...if it's so helpful, maybe i have to buy it - maybe i have to buy Biology of citrus too...which one do you think is better for a free time grower like me?!
I have also seen "Citrus: Complete Guide to Selecting & Growing More Than 100 Varieties for California, Arizona Texas, the Gulf Coast and Florida" but i don't know what to think about that...maybe is the kind of book that doesn't go too much in depth in the argument...i don't know.
Anyway, thanks for your suggestions!
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Millet Citruholic
Joined: 13 Nov 2005 Posts: 6657 Location: Colorado
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Posted: Mon 27 Dec, 2010 8:25 pm |
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Both Dr. Whitcomb's and P. Spiegel Roy/ E.E. Goldschmidt's book are expensive books, most text books are expensive. Generally, all text books very expensive. I just purchased a text book priced just under $200.00 US dealing with the science of growing grapevines. Both Dr. Whitcomb's book and the Roy/Goldschmidt book are outstanding, for me it would be very difficult to choose which book I would rather own. Because you are particularly interested in citrus, I would lean toward The Biology Of Citrus. The Biology Of Citrus is not the type of book that tell you how many grams of fertilizer to apply, how often to water, or what insecticides to use. The book explains the how and why what a citrus tree does and why it does it: = flowering, leaf activity, branch development, root system, biotic stress, diseases, polypoidy, hybridization, breeding, mineral nutrition, under stocks, the method of fruit development, productivity, etc. NOTE: The Biology Of Citrus is not an easy book to read. - Millet (748-)
PS: P. Spiegel Roy and E.E. Goldschmidt have done a LOT of research. Looking their names up on the Internet, you could spend a week reading about all they have accomplished. |
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mjc
Joined: 21 Feb 2011 Posts: 9 Location: WV
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Posted: Tue 22 Feb, 2011 10:50 am |
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To add a little more about the old books and Hume's book in particular, there are some great resources for such books...The Internet Archive, The Biodiversity Library and Google Books.
http://www.archive.org/details/citrusfruitsthei00humerich
A list of some more titles available at the Internet Archive
http://www.archive.org/search.php?query=subject%3A%22Citrus+fruits%22
Yes, the books may be dated, but there is plenty of still valid information in them...Hume, in particular, has a pretty good chapter on grafting, you just have to realize that not everything is still current or valid information.
And you can't beat the price.
Another thing, if you don't mind used books, P. Speigel-Roy and E. E. Goldschmidt's book can be found on sites that deal with used college textbooks. I picked up a used paperback edition pretty cheaply (a lot better than the $87 Amazon wants for a new copy) that way. It's in pretty decent shape and as a working reference, it suits my needs rather nicely. |
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