Phil, very impressive list. First, I fully agree with you on Kishu mandarin. I also grow Kishu. Kishu is good tasting, but it is such a hassle to peel, and the fruit is much to small to bother with. Second, I also agree concerning Xie Shan Mandarin. Xie Shan is a real winner, excellent, excellent,excellent. Another mandarin that is tops on my list for flavor is the BC-1, a really good mandarin. I am lucky to have it, as Lazz budded one for me several years ago. - Millet (1,029-)