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mikeyinfla
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Posted: Sun 21 Mar, 2010 7:12 pm

i was wondering if someone may know of a source for the asimina obovata i have tried the a. triloba they just donot do well in my part of florida they grow for maybe two years but than the third year they just never break dormancy and die the obovata as well as the a. parviflora are supposed to be native to florida i have one of the a. parviflora but i have been looking for the a. obovata for several years now. i did get a few plants from a nursery a few years ago but i got kinda anxious and transplanted them to early so they died. that nursery no longer carries them so i have no source for plants or seeds. the last time i contacted one of the florida pawpaw societys they said go find them in the wild but no plant is worth going to jail for collecting off of state property and not even sure where they would grow naturally in an area i could harvest seeds and scions from hopefully someone has a source ty mike

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Posted: Wed 24 Mar, 2010 11:19 pm

here is a link to where i just got my 2 paw paw trees .
Mine where nicely grafted and came Very healthy

http://www.burntridgenursery.com/fruitingPlants/index_product.asp?dept=9&parent=7


just check under fruiting trees they have the species you where looking for .
Tammy

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Posted: Wed 24 Mar, 2010 11:43 pm

thanx for the link but the a. triloba is the one that just does not do well for me. i am looking for the more native asimina species that do grow in florida specifically the asimina obovata

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Posted: Thu 25 Mar, 2010 1:15 am

i just ordered sunflower from them
they have many different types .

Maybe im missing something Tammy

http://www.millernurseries.com/cart.php?m=product_detail&p=46&gclid=CIKSxqH40qACFQk65QodyV5dtg


Maybe this guy has what your looking for i dont know the company but good luck

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Posted: Thu 25 Mar, 2010 11:38 am

just like citrus asimina has different species within it. the common pawpaw is the Asimina Triloba that is the one you see in all the catalogues and websites for sale. i have ordered grafted trees and seedlings in the past they just die after about 3 years. so i am looking for a species of asimina that is native to Florida its called Asimina Obovata. i have not seen any plants round my area to try to get seeds or budwood from. i do have one of the species that is called dwarf pawpaw / asimina parviflora i do need to get another parviflora mine does not set fruit and some of them need cross pollination. there are something like 8 or 9 species of asimina possibly more

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Malcolm_Manners
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Posted: Thu 25 Mar, 2010 6:15 pm

Try "The Natives" nursery, in Davenport. I don't know that they have it, but they do carry all kinds of rare native stuff that no one else has, so they'd be the first place I'd try.
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Posted: Fri 26 Mar, 2010 7:27 pm

ty for the nursery info i gave them a call to see if they have any but it was just before noon so dought anyone was near the phone. thats actually the nursery i got the original ones from but had saved the wrong nursery link several years ago and that nursrery at one time did stock them so though the nursery no longer stocked them. if they have any this time i will let them grow fully in the linners before transplanting or hopefully they have a few bigger poted ones

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Posted: Sat 03 Apr, 2010 9:59 am

yup they have the a. obovata they will be opened on sat apr 24 so will make the trip than thanx for the nursery info again.

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Posted: Sat 24 Apr, 2010 6:57 pm

i picked up two small asimina obovata plants from them they where almost out of them. did pick up a few other things though a simpsons stopper a summer haw a gopher apple some sort of small blueberry almost has silver leaves and a few red maples i want to try and graft a few pieces that where left of my northern red maple. the norther red maple just does not do good on its own roots. they did say there is a women that deals with nothing but pawpaws several different species in leesburg florida but could not find any info on it. he said her name was petra or pietra but could not remember the name of the nursery. the two i got from the natives nursery are about three inches tall so will be a long time till they get to fruiting size.

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Posted: Sat 24 Apr, 2010 10:51 pm

A point of interest. Obovata translate to "inversely ovate," and ovate (ovata) translate to egg shaped; broad end at base (relating to the leaf shape). - Millet (997-finally below 1,000))
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Posted: Sat 15 May, 2010 6:29 pm

just picked up three asimina obovata and one asimina pygmea there is a women out of leesburg that speciaizes in them she has not grown any of the asimina triloba

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Malcolm_Manners
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Posted: Sat 15 May, 2010 6:49 pm

Mikey, Glad you got the obovatas.

As for red maple -- best of luck. However, I see two problems there:

1. The trouble with growing a northern type in Florida is almost certainly the lack of chill units, which is counted and controlled by the scion, not the rootstock, so I have to doubt that a different root system would solve the problem.

2. Red maples are notorious (more so than any other plant species that I know) for being graft-incompatible with other red maples, even though they are the same species. They're easy to graft, but then the graft fails within a few years.

But good luck with them.

Malcolm
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