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Laaz
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Posted: Tue 17 Mar, 2009 1:20 pm

Does the USDA not care about the spread of Greening & Canker ? The more I watch other forums the more I see people constantly bringing citrus out of FL when they know it is illegal...

A few examples...

http://members3.boardhost.com/HardyPalm/msg/1237298909.html

http://forums.gardenweb.com/forums/load/citrus/msg0315331327532.html?10

I hope everyone here understands the risks of moving citrus out of FL with this disease.

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morphinelover
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Posted: Tue 17 Mar, 2009 3:14 pm

your right, its those type people that ruin it for everyone.
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Skeeter
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Posted: Wed 18 Mar, 2009 4:28 pm

I agree, if they really wanted to stop it, there are some very simple measures that could be required of sources that sell citrus--post notice that citrus cannot be taken out of state and require drivers license (Fl resident) for purchase.

The fact that USDA does not require either of these simple measures is pretty sad.

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David
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Posted: Sat 02 May, 2009 4:35 pm

It is evident that the ACP or resulting disease can not be stopped.........as there is no real desire to do so. There are ways to shut it down but as long as it is not enforced, the public is not educated and no one seems to really really care...it will take its toll and those of us that have made citrus our lives will suffer with the rest of them...........It is a shame and I for one will continue to do what I can to see that I am part of the reason for the demise of the ACP...........................David
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Skeeter
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Posted: Sat 02 May, 2009 6:00 pm

It is clear that the Psyllid can move naturally and I am sure that Mother Nature and the wind has been responsible for much if not most of the movement, and niether Mother Nature or the Psyllid is going to pay any attention to laws or borders, but human transportation of the pest and disease can provide giant leaps in the movement of the pest and the disease which we do not need.

USDA and Florida could do more prevent the spread by requiring notice at all points of sale that it is illegal to transport out of state, however, in reality the biggest risk probably comes from people who move older trees out of state ( or their parts, since these older trees that are more likely to be infected).

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C4F
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Posted: Wed 24 Mar, 2010 6:50 am

Am I correct to understand that I can purchase a tree in Santa Paula, CA (Ventura County) and relocate it back to my home in central CA and this does NOT violate the quarantine?

Even though it appears a rather short distance 'as the wind blows' from quarantined areas in the adjacent counties?

If I purchase a young tree from a reputable nursery this also represents a relatively lower risk activity?
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A.T. Hagan
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Posted: Wed 24 Mar, 2010 11:38 am

Psyllids have been found in every major citrus producing state and in most of the minor ones as well. That ship has well and truly sailed.

It's now down to remediation and management.

She does not seem to export much of it, but China where greening originated from, is still one of the largest citrus producers on the planet. The yellow dragon is a serious problem, but it's not the end of the world.

.....Alan.
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C4F
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Posted: Thu 25 Mar, 2010 7:37 pm

A.T. I'm sorry, but was your last post in response to mine or directed at the original?
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turtleman
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Posted: Thu 25 Mar, 2010 10:35 pm

C4F, your correct in that you can relocate citrus from one location to another as long as your Not relocating a plant that is in a quarantined zone.
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Mark_T
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Posted: Fri 26 Mar, 2010 3:28 am

Some of this has to just be ignorance. I had no idea about most these issues until I started coming here. Maybe if trees were sold with some information about these things, but there is really very little education going on at the nurseries. You buy a tree, they ring you up and you are out. No mention that you could endanger much of the US citrus crop with improper transporation of that tree or any cuttings.
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Synovia
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Posted: Wed 25 Jul, 2012 2:54 pm

Skeeter wrote:
I agree, if they really wanted to stop it, there are some very simple measures that could be required of sources that sell citrus--post notice that citrus cannot be taken out of state and require drivers license (Fl resident) for purchase.

The fact that USDA does not require either of these simple measures is pretty sad.

I don't know that requiring a license is a good idea. That precludes anyone with a vacation house in florida, etc.

I'd be for putting a label on every tree/pot sold in florida that says "this tree cannot leave florida." and then an explanation of why.

I think the big issue is that most of the people bringing trees out of florida simply don't know any better.
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Westwood
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Posted: Wed 25 Jul, 2012 6:06 pm

If they are at a nursery i would say ya really can not blame the nursery because they do not know who is out of state and who is not .
I like the idea of labels or RED flag them .

i do not know what state is is safe to buy from even now since California is In quarantine as well and some people are still shipping.

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Laaz
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Posted: Wed 25 Jul, 2012 7:22 pm

Only certain counties in CA are in quarantine, not the entire state.

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