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brianPA2 Citruholic
Joined: 09 Mar 2013 Posts: 119 Location: Southeastern Pennsylvania (6b)
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Posted: Sun 05 Jan, 2014 9:26 pm |
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So what's the downside to this approach vs maintaining 55F and some sunlight? Less growth in spring?
What about unripened fruit on the tree? |
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Millet Citruholic
Joined: 13 Nov 2005 Posts: 6657 Location: Colorado
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Posted: Mon 06 Jan, 2014 4:28 pm |
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The down side is 0% growth as long as the light is withheld from the tree. Besides no growth, the tree is not producing photosynthetic starch (the tree's food/energy source). Much of the starch production over the cooler winter period is stored up, for use in the spring growth and flowering. - Millet |
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brianPA2 Citruholic
Joined: 09 Mar 2013 Posts: 119 Location: Southeastern Pennsylvania (6b)
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Posted: Mon 06 Jan, 2014 8:58 pm |
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Millet wrote: | The down side is 0% growth as long as the light is withheld from the tree. Besides no growth, the tree is not producing photosynthetic starch (the tree's food/energy source). Much of the starch production over the cooler winter period is stored up, for use in the spring growth and flowering. - Millet |
I suspected this might be the case, but does this simply waste the potential growth of the winter months and otherwise resume as normal? Or will it have irreversible effects like dropping fruit or ruining fruit quality? |
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Sylvain Site Admin
Joined: 16 Nov 2007 Posts: 790 Location: Bergerac, France.
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Posted: Tue 07 Jan, 2014 5:02 am |
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In winter I store my citrus in a very dark place and the fruits ripen just as if they were in the sun.
I mean the fruits that have reached their normal size or near. |
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Karoly Citruholic
Joined: 27 Dec 2010 Posts: 227 Location: Hungary, Europe, Zone 6
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Posted: Sat 18 Jan, 2014 9:34 am |
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After 7 weeks in a closed box:
No leaf drop yet! |
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Karoly Citruholic
Joined: 27 Dec 2010 Posts: 227 Location: Hungary, Europe, Zone 6
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Posted: Sat 01 Feb, 2014 10:17 am |
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After 9 weeks:
Some white mold appears due to no aeration (closed box) and high humidity. I need to water a bit the aurantium seedling. |
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citrange Site Admin
Joined: 24 Nov 2005 Posts: 589 Location: UK - 15 miles west of London
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Posted: Sat 01 Feb, 2014 3:23 pm |
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Yes, the C. aurantium does look a bit droopy.
What have the temperatures been?
You said before that it had reached 12C. I suspect that is a little warm for C. aurantium to stop all processes.
Interesting experiment. |
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Karoly Citruholic
Joined: 27 Dec 2010 Posts: 227 Location: Hungary, Europe, Zone 6
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Posted: Sun 02 Feb, 2014 5:58 am |
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Week 8 the temperatures was 3C to 16C. From last week we have a cold spell and I must to move the box in a heated room where I'm keeping a part of my citrus trees at 4 - 5C. |
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Karoly Citruholic
Joined: 27 Dec 2010 Posts: 227 Location: Hungary, Europe, Zone 6
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Posted: Mon 17 Feb, 2014 9:21 am |
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After 11 weeks:
During week 10 the temperatures was between 4C & 5C degrees.
During week 11 the temperatures was between 2C & 14C degrees. |
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Karoly Citruholic
Joined: 27 Dec 2010 Posts: 227 Location: Hungary, Europe, Zone 6
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Posted: Mon 03 Mar, 2014 2:36 pm |
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After 13 weeks:
Temperatures was between 4C & 14C.
C. Aurantium has been thirsty again. |
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brianPA2 Citruholic
Joined: 09 Mar 2013 Posts: 119 Location: Southeastern Pennsylvania (6b)
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Posted: Thu 06 Mar, 2014 10:54 pm |
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I highly recommend imgur.com as a free image host. |
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Karoly Citruholic
Joined: 27 Dec 2010 Posts: 227 Location: Hungary, Europe, Zone 6
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Posted: Sun 16 Mar, 2014 11:24 am |
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brianPA2 wrote: | I highly recommend imgur.com as a free image host. |
Thanks Brian! I've choose photobucket! |
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Karoly Citruholic
Joined: 27 Dec 2010 Posts: 227 Location: Hungary, Europe, Zone 6
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Posted: Sun 16 Mar, 2014 11:30 am |
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Last photo!
After 15 weeks spent in a closed box, only 1 leaf drop on Aurantium seedling:
Spring is here so they are going out. |
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Sylvain Site Admin
Joined: 16 Nov 2007 Posts: 790 Location: Bergerac, France.
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Posted: Sun 16 Mar, 2014 6:40 pm |
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Be very careful. Don't put them out on a sunny day. |
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Scott_6B Citruholic
Joined: 11 Oct 2011 Posts: 251 Location: North Shore Massachusetts
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Posted: Tue 18 Mar, 2014 1:56 pm |
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To go along with this experiment, I have some related results for my Thomasville citrangequat, which I planted outside last year. It has been held in complete darkness inside a protective structure with no heat since mid November 2013 and still looks great. As long as the trees are not actively growing, I believe that they can tolerate being in complete darkness for quite a long time.
Here are some pictures of it after being in the dark for just over 16 weeks:
The Thomasville (taken a few days ago):
The enclosure (taken in early March)
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