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Junglekeeper · Posted: Wed 14 Jan, 2009 8:14 pm

How is trovita pronounced? With an 'i' similar to vitamin or with an 'e' like pita (bread)? Or are both valid as in the case of tomato?

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citrange · Posted: Tue 27 Jan, 2009 1:02 pm

I guess both are acceptable.
The letter 'i' is often pronounced differently between American and British English. For example all the following have two versions: dynasty, idyll, privacy, simultaneous, vitamin. I think we can add Trovita.

Junglekeeper · Posted: Tue 27 Jan, 2009 4:39 pm

You may be right, citrange. Judging by the lack of responses I too figured it was one of those words that could go either way.

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Sylvain · Posted: Wed 28 Jan, 2009 4:41 am

Where does it come from? It looks like a latin root (Italian, Esperanto?), then it might be "i" not "ai".

Junglekeeper · Posted: Wed 28 Jan, 2009 6:12 pm

Esperanto, apparently, according to this UCR document. And so the correct pronunciation is...?

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Sylvain · Posted: Wed 28 Jan, 2009 7:04 pm

> And so the correct pronunciation is...?
"i" like "to fit". It means "found". A little like "eureka".

Junglekeeper · Posted: Wed 28 Jan, 2009 10:26 pm

Thanks. This is a third alternative which I had not considered. So it's like vitamin pronounced the British way.

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Polarbear · Joined: 23 Oct 2008 Posts: 14 Location: Kotka, Finland

There is at least one 'i' which is pronounced the same way in Australian, American and British English, in fact all over the world and that is the 'i' in the word thick, for which there is no secondary pronounciation.

The 'i' in Trovita is the 'i' of thick.

There are also words for which the 'o' is similar all over and that is the 'o' in words like cord and Paul.

The 'o' of Trovita sounds similar.

Sylvain · Posted: Fri 20 Feb, 2009 1:16 pm

Cxu ci parolas Esperanton?

JoeReal · Posted: Fri 20 Feb, 2009 1:23 pm

citrange wrote:

I guess both are acceptable.
The letter 'i' is often pronounced differently between American and British English. For example all the following have two versions: dynasty, idyll, privacy, simultaneous, vitamin. I think we can add Trovita.

The thing is that the "i" in Trovita is in the second syllable, so it should be pronounced like the "i" in thick.

Other examples of second syllable "i" are pitiful, dutiful, omnivore, cardinal, plentiful, English, British.... We don't pronounce plent-"eye"-ful as an example, so am not pronouncing Trov-"eye"-ta either. Neither Eng-"lye"-sh nor Bri-"tie"-sh.

Of course, this is English and you will always find exceptions.

Millet · Posted: Sat 21 Feb, 2009 2:07 am

The name Trovita (pronounced tro-vee-ta) is esperanto for "found", and the name was suggested because of the accidental finding of the seeds which produced the variety. The original Trovita tree, a good non-navel orange, was grown from seeds, that were found in a fruit from a Washington Navel tree, that was growing at the California Citrus Experiment Station in the crop of 1914 - 1915. It was grown, named, and described by H.B. Frost, of the California Citrus Experiment Station, and was released for experimental distribution in 1935. The fruit from which the seeds were taken, was apparently a normal Washington Navel, therefore, the variety probably originated as a bud variation. - Millet (1,429)