Hello together!

Does anybody know how to get the Sanford and Phelps citrange in Europe? I mean not Sanford F2 but its mother, the F1 cross. I am interested in Sanford and Phelps because of their very high percentage of zygotic seedlings. For the same reason, I am searching for the Saccaton citromelo. Those plants seem to be very rare probably because their fruits taste horrible and because they cannot serve as a standard rootstock due to the high amount of zygotic seeds. But that's why I would like to use them in crossing experiments. I know that INRA Corse has them but they did not answer me.
Finally, I am looking for the Juanita tangerine. Does anyone know where to get it in Europe?

A good day to you all!

Greetings,

Till

Look at VOSS ...

Thank you for the tipp. I have already asked him though. I got no clear answer but I guess he does not have them because they are not on his homepage. As an enthusiast in breeding new varieties he would certainly offer them if he had them.

aha ... I thought he collects such stuff ...

Hi Till, I have Juanita, but I've already harvested the fruit this year...no seeds left....just seedlings. The Sanford and Saccaton I am planning to get this year...probably as scions. If you end up wanting seeds maybe I can get you some Juanita seeds next year. The Sanford and Saccaton would take several more years from me. Send me a note in about 11 months if interested in Juanita. Maybe some other members here in the US have seeds right now?

In the thread under this one, "various seed packs", Laaz is selling a pack of Juanita seeds right now!

Thank you for the tipp and your offer, Greg!
I'll contact Laaz for Juanita. And what concerns Saccaton and Sanford, let's stay in contact. I hope though that somebody in Europe can offer me scions of both. I am so impatient to see my own flowers of these plants.

One thing regarding Sacaton...it's supposed to be nearly completely nucellar. But in testing from the UCR collection it showed up as having a high percentage of zygotic seedlings. UCR has 3 accessions labeled Sacaton. I will try my best to find out the % zygotic of each and try to get the one(s) with decent zygotic percentage. I only mention it because the real Sacaton may not be what you're looking for, so test if possible.

Oh, that is indeed an important point. I read in a book from Bernhard Voss that Sacaton has an high percentage of zygotic seedlings. The formulation, however, was not so definitive for he only wrote that some tests have observed a high percentage of zygotic seedlings. And then I read the opposite in the internet. But now you have solved the riddle for me. Difficult if you cannot trust the official names of cultivars!