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Ned
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Posted: Fri 31 Oct, 2008 11:32 pm

Thanks Skeet. I don't think I have seen that one before.

I caution that this map only reflects the quarantine status of the country, not the extent of the psyllid or disease. Take Georgia for instance. The last I heard, the psyllid has only been found in 3 or 4 coastal counties, but the state opted to quarantine the whole state. The entire state of Florida has been quarantined for canker and greening, but much of the state remains free of both diseases. Particullary the Northern section. It is interesting to see how the psyllid and disease has followed I-95 up the coast. I think they are traveling in cars. Once they get to say Beaufort. they able to move from tree to tree by flying and whatever other means they normally disburse. I am not too sure they have to be on a citrus tree. I can see where they could be in a pile of palm trees or ornamentals.

I am pretty sure I have already posted this but will stick it in again to keep from having to look back:

http://www.doacs.state.fl.us/pi/chrp/ArcReader/CC_HLB.pdf

The last time I was in Florida, I did see a change that might have a postive impact, . I stopped to get gas at one of the gas stations/fruit stands just inside the state. There were no citrus trees for sale. I don't know if this was a real change or not, but that station normally had plenty of trees for sale. With the psylid here, it is very important to keep infected material confine to South Florida as much as possible.

I agree with Millet and others that are concerned the disease moving at a frightenly rapid pace. I do hope that the ramped up effort of the USDA, increased awareness of the public, and advancement in pesticides and control techniques will help. The USDA has been making a strong effert to get the word out here and elsewhere.

Patty, I don't think the psyllid will reach you, Millet or anyone in similiar areas, but no one knows for sure how far the problem will spread.

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Posted: Sat 01 Nov, 2008 2:29 am

The insect, but not the disease has been found in San Diego County.
Here is a PDF of the leaflet about the Asian Citrus Psyllid:
http://anrcatalog.ucdavis.edu/pdf/8205.pdf
And here are some of the sprays being used on Citrus trees:
http://www.ipm.ucdavis.edu/EXOTIC/diaphorinacitri.html

I wish I had some good news about a cure for citrus greening disease,
but I don't. 'Confused'

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Posted: Sun 02 Nov, 2008 12:37 pm

Ned, you are right about the quarantine not representing the actual status of disease or insect distribution. I was hopeful that it would be quite some time before either would be able to get into this area of Florida, but the appearance of the psyllid and greening in LA has destroyed that hope. That jump was probably due to illegal movement of plants out of Florida by someone who didn't know or didn't care about the quarantine, but now, movement east will be unstoppable. The fact that MS and AL have already found the psyllid shows how fast it is moving. I do not expect it will be long before I see the insect here.

I still don't think USDA or FL are doing the most simple thing they could do to slow down illegal movement by people who do follow the law---require all points of sale sources to post a clear and visible sign pointing out the quarantine. They could go as far as requiring a local drivers license for purchase of all quarantined items in all locations where there is a quarantine. I do believe that most people would follow the law if they knew about it, but there would still be a few that would ignore the law and find a way around it if they could.

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Posted: Sun 02 Nov, 2008 1:39 pm

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I still don't think USDA or FL are doing the most simple thing they could do to slow down illegal movement by people who do follow the law


From what I see they are doing NOTHING to educate or stop the movement of trees.

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Posted: Sun 02 Nov, 2008 2:24 pm

Unfortunately, Lazz, I really can't argue against what you said--I guess it is like the old saying goes--Misery loves company!

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Posted: Sun 02 Nov, 2008 7:10 pm

I agree on all counts Skeeter. More needs to be done to educate the public. The problem locally now is that it will only take one infected tree to get the disease started. To the credit of the USDA, I am seeing more of their people than I ever have before. They had a representative at the Bamboo Farm Fall Sale with a booth, and I understand there will be representatives at Tifton for the Citrus Expo.

Lazz, you are right, pressure needs to be put on Florida to do more.

I know a cold winter is not what most citrus hobbyists crave, but I sure wonder if a few 20 degree nights wouldn't help the situation. We have got to where we seldom get much lower that 25 - here lately it has be 27 or 28. Hilton Head is usually a few degrees warmer still.

Skeet you folks in Pensacola have been might lucky. I sure hope it holds out for you.

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Posted: Mon 03 Nov, 2008 7:16 pm

So far we have been spared and I had hope that the controls FL put in place would really slow down the movement of HLB (greening) within FL. I also figured that without movement of infected plants it would be very slow moving toward the west (against the prevailing winds), but now that LA has HLB --I am really concerned and I believe we could have the ACP and HLB within a yr or two.

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