Phil, you can pick Satsumas before the stage that your fruit are at now. Satsumas are mature before they turn orange. I read either in one of my books, or perhaps on the Internet, I cannot remember which, that Satsuma's become puffy when they are held on the tree too long. I do remember, that when I read it, I thought of you, as you posted this same topic last year. However, I don't remember it saying that they become dry. - Millet (465-)