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Citrus in Croatia
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ivica Moderator
Joined: 08 Jan 2007 Posts: 658 Location: Sisak, Croatia, zone 7b
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Posted: Fri 12 Mar, 2010 9:55 am |
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Photographs are from Dr. ivko Gatin's collection and posted here with his kind permission. He is finishing work on his 2 books. I did translation of his comments.
Very early ripening Unshiu Mandarines:
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Ichimaru, photographed 2001-09-20
Wakiyama, photographed 2002-09-02, 2002-09-11, 2002-09-28
Zorica Rana (mutation of Kawano Wase), photographed 2002-09-11
Zorica Rana, 5 years old tree
Zorica Rana, photographed 2001-09-20
Lemons:
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Meyer Lemon Grove - Parja cove near Vis, Island of Vis, old photo 1990. or earlier
Eureka Lemon - Komia, Island of Vis
Millet, here is what we were looking for via GoggleEarth,
Experimental (Pilot) Lemon Grove - Komia, Island of Vis
My translation of Dr. Gatin's comment:
"2500 square meters, planted spring 1994., Lisbon and Eureka.
Eureka showed better, more moderate growth, less thorny, easier to harvest.
Every house there have a lemon tree, or two or ten or ..., most probably a Femminello." _________________
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Laaz Site Owner
Joined: 12 Nov 2005 Posts: 5653 Location: Dorchester County, South Carolina
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Posted: Mon 10 Oct, 2011 12:39 pm |
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Very nice. I didn't know there were commercial citrus groves in Russia. _________________ Wal-Mart a great place to buy cheap plastic crap ! http://walmartwatch.com/ ...
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igor.fogarasi Moderator
Joined: 11 Apr 2011 Posts: 556 Location: Novi Sad, Serbia
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Posted: Mon 10 Oct, 2011 2:45 pm |
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though i'm not quite sure about russia, this is what croatia, and the whole mediterranean coastline is known for, citrus orchards... recently i had a chance to taste this year's crop of early ripening (wase) mandarins from metkovic, croatia. and i have to say that those were the most delicious satsumas i've ever tasted. |
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Laaz Site Owner
Joined: 12 Nov 2005 Posts: 5653 Location: Dorchester County, South Carolina
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Posted: Mon 10 Oct, 2011 2:59 pm |
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Sorry I don't know why I was thinking Russia. Croatia is on the Adriatic sea. _________________ Wal-Mart a great place to buy cheap plastic crap ! http://walmartwatch.com/ ...
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Millet Citruholic
Joined: 13 Nov 2005 Posts: 6657 Location: Colorado
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Posted: Mon 10 Oct, 2011 6:12 pm |
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Laaz, Vis is not in Russia. It is an Island west of Croatia. A year ago or so Ivica had a post about citrus growers on the Island of Vis. You can see the island on Google Earth. Ivica, what are the books about that the Doctor is writing? - Millet (462-) |
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GT Citruholic
Joined: 11 Jul 2010 Posts: 394 Location: Beaumont, TX (zone 9a)
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Posted: Tue 11 Oct, 2011 12:10 am |
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Laaz,
as far as I know there are no attempts to grow citrus in Russia, since the climate is not very conducive. There are small subtropical regions but I never heard about in ground citrus in there... Maybe in the future? |
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ivica Moderator
Joined: 08 Jan 2007 Posts: 658 Location: Sisak, Croatia, zone 7b
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Posted: Tue 11 Oct, 2011 2:30 am |
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Millet wrote: | Ivica, what are the books about that the Doctor is writing? - Millet (462-) |
One is about growing mandarines on Adriatic area, other is more autobiographic one.
That other will be even more interesting for me, expecting stories about what citrus research looked like then... when people had time to visit each other, stories about sailing to Corsica (INRA) etc. to visit friends and citrus there... Those times and things ... of which I can dream only.
Fortunately such 'spirit' and such people still exist, our Sylvain from Bergerac was here in visit this summer, with his 'sail' too
EDIT 2011-10-12: added photo, Sylvain 'the Sailman' behind backyard:
BTW: News article about Vis, although translation will be far from perfect it shoud be readable:
http://arhiv.slobodnadalmacija.hr/20030215/sdmagazin02.asp _________________
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ivica Moderator
Joined: 08 Jan 2007 Posts: 658 Location: Sisak, Croatia, zone 7b
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Posted: Wed 12 Oct, 2011 6:28 am |
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One more thing, reading about discovery of Zorica Rana mandarin and further work on it could be quite interesting too.
Zorica Rana has been identified (as mutation of Kawano Wase) in early seventhies, when Dr. Gatin was nearly 50y old. And now, 40 years later, that mandarin is not yet easily available from nurseries, not even in Croatia.
I'm 51 now , wondering will I live long enough to hear other people talking about Siscia Lemon. _________________
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Karoly Citruholic
Joined: 27 Dec 2010 Posts: 227 Location: Hungary, Europe, Zone 6
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Posted: Wed 12 Oct, 2011 8:56 am |
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ivica wrote: | One more thing, reading about discovery of Zorica Rana mandarin and further work on it could be quite interesting too.
Zorica Rana has been identified (as mutation of Kawano Wase) in early seventhies, when Dr. Gatin was nearly 50y old. And now, 40 years later, that mandarin is not yet easily available from nurseries, not even in Croatia.
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Hi ivica,
I miss you!
For the next year I would like to increase my small citrus collection with another 3 satsuma variety like Hasimoto, Ichimaru and Zorica Rana. We will see in the future if I can purchase these varietes. At the moment I'm growing Miyagawa, Okitsu, Silverhill and Kartuli.
I'm glad to see you back! |
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ivica Moderator
Joined: 08 Jan 2007 Posts: 658 Location: Sisak, Croatia, zone 7b
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Posted: Wed 12 Oct, 2011 1:56 pm |
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Thanks Karoly
... but I never left this forum. I have spent too much time in front of computer in my (professional) life so I like to avoid that whenever possible - specially when warmth is arround. That is different during winter, not much other things to do anyway.
Apparently you like mandarines very much.
Do not miss turn to Sisak on your next trip to Adriatic. _________________
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Karoly Citruholic
Joined: 27 Dec 2010 Posts: 227 Location: Hungary, Europe, Zone 6
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Posted: Thu 13 Oct, 2011 3:39 am |
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ivica,
You disappear for a while. I couldnt see any post from you in the last few months. |
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ivica Moderator
Joined: 08 Jan 2007 Posts: 658 Location: Sisak, Croatia, zone 7b
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Posted: Thu 13 Oct, 2011 10:02 am |
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Karoly wrote: | ivica,
You disappear for a while. I couldnt see any post from you in the last few months. |
Well, that's the fact. I'll behave better in the following months _________________
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mboret
Joined: 04 Sep 2011 Posts: 18 Location: Dronten Netherlands
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Posted: Sun 20 Nov, 2011 8:28 am |
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Just to ad: Russia has in some places even a USDA zone 9!
This info I got from Wikepedia:
Sochi (Russian: Сочи, IPA: [ˈsotɕɪ]) is a city in Krasnodar Krai, Russia, situated just north of Russia's border with the de facto independent republic of Abkhazia,[notes 1] on the Black Sea coast. Greater Sochi sprawls for 145 kilometers (90 mi) along the shores of the Black Sea near the Caucasus Mountains.
Sochi has a humid subtropical climate[10][11]-Mediterranean-type, with mild winters (average +11 °C (52 °F) during the day and +4 °C (39 °F) at night in the period from December to March) and comfortable summers (average +24 °C (75 °F) during the day and +16 °C (61 °F) at night period from May to October).
So it is very well to grow any kind of citrusses in Russia!!! _________________ USDA zone 8a |
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GT Citruholic
Joined: 11 Jul 2010 Posts: 394 Location: Beaumont, TX (zone 9a)
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Posted: Mon 21 Nov, 2011 12:57 am |
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mboret,
as far as I know, it is a unique but rather small region. I read occasional reports about seeing "some citrus tree" in Sochi region but there are no commercial citrus groves to the best of my knowledge. I'm not sure whether climate or other factors are to be blamed for this. |
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mboret
Joined: 04 Sep 2011 Posts: 18 Location: Dronten Netherlands
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Posted: Mon 21 Nov, 2011 6:14 am |
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Hi GT,
I think you could be right; I've found the following information:
South-west of Russia:
A warm and mild climate is found in the Caucasus. A very small area in the
southwestern Caucasus, near the city of Batumi, falls within zone 8 and even to
zone 9. Average temperatures of December, January and February are about
48° F (9° C); 0° C occurs very rarely and only for very short periods. The
average minimum is ca. 25° F (-4° C) and the absolute minimum in Batumi was
registered as 19° F (-7° C). This area is also remarkable for its annual
precipitation of about 177.3² (4,500 mm) more typical of a tropical rain forest.
The climate is obviously warm and humid.
The coastal area along the Black Sea, from Batumi northward to Sukhumi,
refers to zone 8. Its average January temperature is 35° F (2° C), with a
minimum air temperature once recorded as 15° F (-9° C). However, cold periods
with a mean temperature of 32° F (0° C) happen very rarely and last only a
short time. Further to the north, from Sukhumi and Gagra to Tuapse, the
temperature is a bit lower and there is less precipitation, recorded near Tuapse
and Sochi as half that in Batumi. This area can be referred to zone 7.
MBG: Research: Russia: Ornamental plants from Russia 01/03/2007 11:23 PM
http://www.mobot.org/MOBOT/Research/russia/climatic.shtml Page 4 of 7
Greetings
Max Boret _________________ USDA zone 8a |
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