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JoeReal Site Admin
Joined: 16 Nov 2005 Posts: 4726 Location: Davis, California
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Posted: Mon 24 Sep, 2007 1:27 am |
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I would love to get some US-852 rootstock. Where can I get one?
http://www.ars-grin.gov/ars/SoAtlantic/fp/hb/bowman/852release.html
UNITED STATES DEPARTMENT OF AGRICULTURE
Agricultural Research Service
Washington, D.C. 20250
NOTICE TO FRUIT GROWERS AND NURSERYMEN RELATIVE TO THE NAMING AND RELEASE OF THE US-852 CITRUS ROOTSTOCK
The Agricultural Research Service, U.S. Department of Agriculture hereby releases to nurserymen and growers the US-852 citrus rootstock. This rootstock selection was the result of a cross of Changsha mandarin (Citrus reticulata) x English Large Flowered Trifoliate Orange (Poncirus trifoliata) completed by Dr. Joe Furr at Indio, California in 1965. US-852 is well adapted for production of sweet oranges and other citrus crops in some parts of Central Florida, where it can be readily grafted with commercial scions and expected to produce healthy, high yielding trees. The major attributes of this new rootstock cultivar are its resistance to several important diseases and low production of root sprouts in the field, and its favorable effects on scion tree size, fruit quality, and productivity.
US-852 rootstock, when used in graft combination with 'Hamlin' sweet orange scion, produces a healthy tree that yields large quantities of high quality fruit in Central Florida. At 11 years, 'Hamlin' trees on US-852 were slightly shorter than trees grafted on 'Swingle' citrumelo, the major commercial rootstock in this area, in soils where both cultivars are well adapted. The shorter stature of trees on US-852 in comparison to Swingle and many other common rootstocks allows a more rapid and economical harvest of the fruit crop. Trees on US-852 rootstock have been resistant or field tolerant to several biotic and abiotic factors that frequently damage citrus trees. Trees on US-852 rootstock suffered no apparent damage from Phytophthora nicotianae during the 12 year field trial in Osceola County, while trees on other rootstocks were visibly damaged. US-852 rootstock was tested for resistance to Phytophthora nicotianae by stem inoculation of potted greenhouse plants and found significantly more resistant to damage than several common rootstocks, including Sour orange and Carrizo citrange. Trees of 'Hamlin' on US-852 rootstock were observed to grow and yield well in the presence of severe Florida isolates of citrus tristeza virus (CTV) in Osceola County. Results of testing plants inoculated with CTV by ELISA and molecular marker analysis suggest that US-852 carries the Ctv resistance gene from Poncirus trifoliata.
Long-term field trial data is available with 'Hamlin' scion from the St. Cloud area of Osceola County, Florida (Tables 1 & 2). Young trees with 'Hamlin' orange, 'Sunburst' tangerine, and 'Orlando' tangelo scions on US-852 rootstock may be inspected by appointment at the USDA Whitmore Foundation Farm in Lake County, Florida. Young trees with 'Valencia' orange and 'Flame' grapefruit scions may be inspected at the USDA Ft. Pierce Farm Center, St. Lucie County, Florida. There is preliminary evidence that US-852 may be unacceptable for use where there is high salinity or pH.
To prepare plants of US-852 for use, nucellar seedlings, cuttings, or micropropagated plants are produced and budded with a good viroid-free citrus scion cultivar. Although seed propagation is preferred for citrus rootstocks in general, it is inefficient for this cultivar due to relative unfruitfulness, a low number of seed per fruit, and a high proportion of off-type seedlings. Only about half of seedlings recovered are of nucellar (apomictic) origin and have uniform morphology typical of US-852. Cuttings of US-852 root easily, but a sizable proportion of these never develop well-anchored plants for nursery handling. Tissue culture propagated plants of US-852 appear healthy, true-to-type, and develop strong root systems in the nursery.
Source plant material for US-852 has been tested for CTV, exocortis, and cachexia by Division of Plant Industry, Florida Department of Agriculture and Consumer Services, Winter Haven, Florida. These disease organisms were not found in the US-852 sources.
A patent application has been filed for this cultivar. Plants of US-852 will be distributed for commercial use under license by Twyford International (11850 Twitty Road, Sebring, FL 33870). A limited quantity of plant material for research purposes may be obtained from: Kim D. Bowman, USDA, ARS, 2001 South Rock Road Ft. Pierce, FL 34945-3030.. Genetic material of this release will be deposited in the National Plant Germplasm System where it will be available for research purposes, including develpment and commercialization of new cultivars. Appropriate recognition should be made if this germplasm contributes to the development of a new breeding line or cultivar. |
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fred Citruholic
Joined: 16 Oct 2009 Posts: 134
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Posted: Thu 22 Oct, 2009 8:39 pm |
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JoeReal wrote: | I would love to get some US-852 rootstock. Where can I get one?
http://www.ars-grin.gov/ars/SoAtlantic/fp/hb/bowman/852release.html
UNITED STATES DEPARTMENT OF AGRICULTURE
Agricultural Research Service
Washington, D.C. 20250
NOTICE TO FRUIT GROWERS AND NURSERYMEN RELATIVE TO THE NAMING AND RELEASE OF THE US-852 CITRUS ROOTSTOCK
The Agricultural Research Service, U.S. Department of Agriculture hereby releases to nurserymen and growers the US-852 citrus rootstock. This rootstock selection was the result of a cross of Changsha mandarin (Citrus reticulata) x English Large Flowered Trifoliate Orange (Poncirus trifoliata) completed by Dr. Joe Furr at Indio, California in 1965. US-852 is well adapted for production of sweet oranges and other citrus crops in some parts of Central Florida, where it can be readily grafted with commercial scions and expected to produce healthy, high yielding trees. The major attributes of this new rootstock cultivar are its resistance to several important diseases and low production of root sprouts in the field, and its favorable effects on scion tree size, fruit quality, and productivity.
US-852 rootstock, when used in graft combination with 'Hamlin' sweet orange scion, produces a healthy tree that yields large quantities of high quality fruit in Central Florida. At 11 years, 'Hamlin' trees on US-852 were slightly shorter than trees grafted on 'Swingle' citrumelo, the major commercial rootstock in this area, in soils where both cultivars are well adapted. The shorter stature of trees on US-852 in comparison to Swingle and many other common rootstocks allows a more rapid and economical harvest of the fruit crop. Trees on US-852 rootstock have been resistant or field tolerant to several biotic and abiotic factors that frequently damage citrus trees. Trees on US-852 rootstock suffered no apparent damage from Phytophthora nicotianae during the 12 year field trial in Osceola County, while trees on other rootstocks were visibly damaged. US-852 rootstock was tested for resistance to Phytophthora nicotianae by stem inoculation of potted greenhouse plants and found significantly more resistant to damage than several common rootstocks, including Sour orange and Carrizo citrange. Trees of 'Hamlin' on US-852 rootstock were observed to grow and yield well in the presence of severe Florida isolates of citrus tristeza virus (CTV) in Osceola County. Results of testing plants inoculated with CTV by ELISA and molecular marker analysis suggest that US-852 carries the Ctv resistance gene from Poncirus trifoliata.
Long-term field trial data is available with 'Hamlin' scion from the St. Cloud area of Osceola County, Florida (Tables 1 & 2). Young trees with 'Hamlin' orange, 'Sunburst' tangerine, and 'Orlando' tangelo scions on US-852 rootstock may be inspected by appointment at the USDA Whitmore Foundation Farm in Lake County, Florida. Young trees with 'Valencia' orange and 'Flame' grapefruit scions may be inspected at the USDA Ft. Pierce Farm Center, St. Lucie County, Florida. There is preliminary evidence that US-852 may be unacceptable for use where there is high salinity or pH.
To prepare plants of US-852 for use, nucellar seedlings, cuttings, or micropropagated plants are produced and budded with a good viroid-free citrus scion cultivar. Although seed propagation is preferred for citrus rootstocks in general, it is inefficient for this cultivar due to relative unfruitfulness, a low number of seed per fruit, and a high proportion of off-type seedlings. Only about half of seedlings recovered are of nucellar (apomictic) origin and have uniform morphology typical of US-852. Cuttings of US-852 root easily, but a sizable proportion of these never develop well-anchored plants for nursery handling. Tissue culture propagated plants of US-852 appear healthy, true-to-type, and develop strong root systems in the nursery.
Source plant material for US-852 has been tested for CTV, exocortis, and cachexia by Division of Plant Industry, Florida Department of Agriculture and Consumer Services, Winter Haven, Florida. These disease organisms were not found in the US-852 sources.
A patent application has been filed for this cultivar. Plants of US-852 will be distributed for commercial use under license by Twyford International (11850 Twitty Road, Sebring, FL 33870). A limited quantity of plant material for research purposes may be obtained from: Kim D. Bowman, USDA, ARS, 2001 South Rock Road Ft. Pierce, FL 34945-3030.. Genetic material of this release will be deposited in the National Plant Germplasm System where it will be available for research purposes, including develpment and commercialization of new cultivars. Appropriate recognition should be made if this germplasm contributes to the development of a new breeding line or cultivar. |
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Millet Citruholic
Joined: 13 Nov 2005 Posts: 6657 Location: Colorado
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Posted: Fri 23 Oct, 2009 12:28 am |
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Joe, because this rootstock was Florida produced, and is licensed to Twyford International, a Florida company, I do not think it will be available for California growers. I am sure that you are well aware, it is illegal to ship out of Florida into California. So until the law is changed, or the rootstock is licensed to an out of Florida distributor, you are out of luck. - Millet (1,181-) |
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JoeReal Site Admin
Joined: 16 Nov 2005 Posts: 4726 Location: Davis, California
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Posted: Fri 23 Oct, 2009 10:43 pm |
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Was developed by USDA and for sure have done virus free clones already distributed to citrus germplasm including UCR. |
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Millet Citruholic
Joined: 13 Nov 2005 Posts: 6657 Location: Colorado
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Posted: Fri 23 Oct, 2009 11:29 pm |
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Well, if UCR has US-852 root stock, it should not be a problem getting it, as long as UCR has released it. If it is released, Dr. Robert Kruger has the authority to supply a bud stick upon a request. Citrus Joe and I have received various varieties of budwood from Dr. Kruger that were not on their current order list. - Millet (1,180-) |
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fred Citruholic
Joined: 16 Oct 2009 Posts: 134
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Posted: Sat 24 Oct, 2009 8:36 am |
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Millet Citruholic
Joined: 13 Nov 2005 Posts: 6657 Location: Colorado
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Posted: Sat 24 Oct, 2009 2:11 pm |
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fred, I do not have, nor requested, the particular US 852 variety, and am not much interested in it. I was just posting that Dr. Kruger might make it available if requested. I have received other varieties from UCR that I was interested in. - Millet (1,179-) |
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citrange Site Admin
Joined: 24 Nov 2005 Posts: 589 Location: UK - 15 miles west of London
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Posted: Wed 28 Oct, 2009 6:07 pm |
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It's very interesting to note just how long this has taken from hybridisation to first release.
I've posted before about people happily talking about planning to cross X-variety with Y-variety in order to get superXY-variety. I always point out how long the process takes, and how rarely a new 'super' variety is created.
So this is a good example, 1965 to 2009 - 44 years!
By the way, the name Joe Furr, who created this new rootstock, often appears in connection with unusual citrus varieties introduced into California. I've tried to find out a little about him, but without success. If he is still with us, I guess he would be a very senior citizen by now. Does anyone have any information about him?
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JoeReal Site Admin
Joined: 16 Nov 2005 Posts: 4726 Location: Davis, California
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Posted: Wed 28 Oct, 2009 6:19 pm |
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There are many politics involved as to why some cultivars cannot be released. Some growers over-reacting to who gets what and who shouldn't get what. This has also been complicated by the universities or agencies patenting the citrus cultivars for self-funding. Some of these patent rights arrangement have excluded the public and the exclusivity hoarded by one entity, as in the case of Future Fruit, LLC and the Red Nules.
In fact, the US have very few indigenous citrus species to start with, and they amassed collections all over the world, from Philippines to China, Brazil and elsewhere. USDA did have a lot of hand participating in such collections, through the passion and efforts of Frank Meyer.
With all the diseases that may come along with each entry, the USDA and the UCR have developed several procedures to isolate disease-free clones from various sources of citruses.
Thus, within USDA, it would be a moot point to say that the UCR cannot get citrus cultivars from University of Florida due to quarantines rules. They have the techniques and the facilities to isolate disease free specimen even from the badly infested ones. The quarantine rules are set up for mere mortals who don't have the certifiable techniques of isolating and handling of newly introduced cultivars. A long time ago, I posted links to samples of such techniques on how they go about isolating disease free clones. |
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fred Citruholic
Joined: 16 Oct 2009 Posts: 134
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Posted: Thu 29 Oct, 2009 10:11 pm |
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JoeReal Site Admin
Joined: 16 Nov 2005 Posts: 4726 Location: Davis, California
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Posted: Thu 29 Oct, 2009 11:51 pm |
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fred wrote: | Its about the haves & the have nots also- Its a ego thing |
The ego and pride thing I truly felt that sentiment when I asked opinions of the western breeders when I sought out the peach guardian rootstock. I can sense their lack of enthusiasm for most varieties that were bred in the east. I am but a buyer wanting the best for my yard but the regional pride that reverberates from the breeders to the nursery retail I have strongly felt when following up my own trail of sourcing materials thru legal channels. |
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