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Posted: Thu 25 Oct, 2007 4:38 pm

Save the planet? It's now or never, warns landmark UN report

http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20071025/ts_afp/environmentclimateun;_ylt=Aq8sVYPk7NgCOIG4T6OlsiZpl88F

by Jean-Marc Mojon 1 hour, 59 minutes ago

NAIROBI (AFP) - Humanity is changing Earth's climate so fast and devouring resources so voraciously that it is poised to bequeath a ravaged planet to future generations, the UN warned Thursday in its most comprehensive survey of the environment.


The fourth Global Environment Outlook (GEO-4), published by the United Nations Environment Programme (UNEP), is compiled by 390 experts from observations, studies and data garnered over two decades.

The 570-page report -- which caps a year that saw climate change dominate the news -- says world leaders must propel the environment "to the core of decision-making" to tackle a daily worsening crisis

"The need couldn't be more urgent and the time couldn't be more opportune, with our enhanced understanding of the challenges we face, to act now to safeguard our own survival and that of future generations," GEO-4 said.

The UNEP report offers the broadest and most detailed tableau of environmental change since the Brundtland Report, "Our Common Future," was issued in 1987 and put the environment on the world political map.

"There have been enough wake-up calls since Brundtland. I sincerely hope GEO-4 is the final one," said UNEP Executive Director Achim Steiner.

"The systematic destruction of the Earth's natural and nature-based resources has reached a point where the economic viability of economies is being challenged -- and where the bill we hand on to our children may prove impossible to pay," he added.

Earth has experienced five mass extinctions in 450 million years, the latest of which occurred 65 million years ago, says GEO-4.

"A sixth major extinction is under way, this time caused by human behaviour," it says.

Over the past two decades, growing prosperity has tremendously strengthened the capacity to understand and confront the environmental challenges ahead.

Despite this, the global response has been "woefully inadequate," the report said.

The report listed environmental issues by continent and by sector, offering dizzying and often ominous statistics about the future.

Climate is changing faster than at any time in the past 500,000 years.

Global average temperatures rose by 0.74 degrees Celsius (1.33 Fahrenheit) over the past century and are forecast to rise by 1.8 to four C (3.24-7.2 F) by 2100, it said, citing estimates issued this year by the 2007 Nobel Peace co-laureates, the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC).

With more than six billion humans, Earth's population is now so big that "the amount of resources needed to sustain it exceeds what is available," the report warned, adding that the global population is expected to peak at between eight and 9.7 billion by 2050.

"In Africa, land degradation and even desertification are threats; per capita food production has declined by 12 percent since 1981," it said.

The GEO-4 report went on to enumerate other strains on the planet's resources and biodiversity.

Fish consumption has more than tripled over the past 40 years but catches have stagnated or declined for 20 years, it said.

"Of the major vertebrate groups that have been assessed comprehensively, over 30 percent of amphibians, 23 percent of mammals and 12 percent of birds are threatened," it added.

Stressing it was not seeking to present a "dark and gloomy scenario", UNEP took heart in the successes from efforts to combat ozone loss and chemical air pollution.

But it also stressed that failure to address persistent problems could undo years of hard grind.

And it noted: "Some of the progress achieved in reducing pollution in developed countries has been at the expense of the developing world, where industrial production and its impacts are now being exported."

GEO-4 -- the fourth in a series dating back to 1997 -- also looks at how the current trends may unfold and outlines four scenarios to the year 2050: "Markets First", "Policy First", "Security First", "Sustainability First".

After a year that saw the UN General Assembly devote unprecedented attention to climate change and the Nobel Peace Prize awarded to the IPCC and former US vice president Al Gore for raising awareness on the same issue, the report's authors called for radical change.

"For some of the persistent problems, the damage may already be irreversible," they warned.

"The only way to address these harder problems requires moving the environment from the periphery to the core of decision-making: environment for development, not development to the detriment of environment."
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Posted: Thu 25 Oct, 2007 4:52 pm

I have a question, with all these threads about global warming and increase CO2 why have there been none about ways to reverse those things? it just seems like alot of complaining and not alot of action on the part of the media, if you don't explain alternatives or new projects that reverse these things where is the sense of hope? without hope why bother worrying? i dunno just musing at how things seem so one sided in publications recently.
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Posted: Thu 25 Oct, 2007 5:08 pm

That is the frustration of many other people. Believe me, there are many ideas and solutions to many of the problems and are now feasible technologically. I very much wanted the US to lead in most of them. But like Bush, we are getting left behind, and I hope it is not too late. Hype or no hype, this is one sector to grow the US economy.

Examples of various solutions, you can find the links and clues here:
http://www.news.com/2001-11386_3-0.html?tag=ne.tab.hd
http://www.news.com/8300-10784_3-7-0.html?categoryId=2047&tag=sb_cat
http://www.news.com/8300-10784_3-7-0.html?categoryId=2045&tag=sb_cat
http://www.news.com/8300-10784_3-7-0.html?categoryId=9703473&tag=sb_cat
http://www.ashdenawards.org/
http://autos.yahoo.com/green_center/
http://www.butanol.com/
http://www.solar4sf.org/
http://www.solarbee.com/
http://www.eia.doe.gov/oiaf/aeo/graphic_data.html
http://www.eesolar.com/information.shtml
http://www.coolerado.com/
http://www.consumerenergycenter.org/cgi-bin/eligible_pvmodules.cgi


And that's just a fraction of the available solutions.
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Posted: Thu 25 Oct, 2007 5:09 pm

Millet wrote:
Just a suggestion---- will it be possible to stop all these threads concerning "global warming", and gloom and doom for mankind. It is getting a bit much.


That is why it is off topic. You can chose not to respond to it. But i will stop posting more about it unless specifically called for more evidences.

Will try to post encouraging solutions next, until someone gets tried about this again.
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Posted: Thu 25 Oct, 2007 5:12 pm

A suggestion---- is it possible to stop all these threads concerning "global warming", and its supposed gloom and doom for mankind? The whole subject is conjecture. It is getting way out of hand,.
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Posted: Thu 25 Oct, 2007 5:50 pm

And again, you don't need to read the topics that are boring to you. I myself don't have the time to read each and every thread or topic here, and that is the beauty of the format of these kinds of community forums, you can freely choose what you want to read, and you are not required to read each one of them, much so if they are off-topic.
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Posted: Mon 29 Oct, 2007 12:52 am

HersirSmiley wrote:
I have a question, with all these threads about global warming and increase CO2 why have there been none about ways to reverse those things? it just seems like alot of complaining and not alot of action on the part of the media, if you don't explain alternatives or new projects that reverse these things where is the sense of hope? without hope why bother worrying? i dunno just musing at how things seem so one sided in publications recently.


Good question HersirSmiley, there are just 2 things that most people can do-- conserve and recycle-- and a side benefit to that is we get the arab oil barrons off our back. I don't understand what is so wrong with that.

For people that can, it would help to switch to non-carbon energy sources, like solar and wind or even carbon neutral sources such as biofuel.

We can all encourage our government to take action.

It really doesn't matter if Al Gore is right or wrong-- we have 2 choices-- do something or do nothing. If we do something and nothing happens at least we save some money by conserving. If we do nothing and leave our children a dying planet--- well---

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Posted: Mon 29 Oct, 2007 2:05 am

Meanwhile China is building one coal fired power plant every month. Also putting automobiles (which is new to the Chinese people's lives) on the their roads in world record numbers.
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Posted: Mon 29 Oct, 2007 2:42 am

Millet wrote:
Meanwhile China is building one coal fired power plant every month. Also putting automobiles (which is new to the Chinese people's lives) on the their roads in world record numbers.


There is a justification of course...
According to the contractors and builders of such coal powered plants, China is able to utilize the latest and the greatest cleanest methods of extracting energy using the most improved coal plant design. They can start fresh on new coal plants, from scratch, while the US find it hard to build new more efficient ones because of insurmountable bureaucracy, and thanks to Bush for making it easier now. And there is absolutely no one in the world to stop China from building many more coal plants, efficiently designed or otherwise. They are truly unstoppable, no sanction will work, and they are doing it at every whim without any regard to the environment, there's simply too many people to be disposed of and millions don't matter to them, so why not join them in building more coal plants instead? Why shouldn't we enjoy the economic advantages of coal?
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Posted: Mon 29 Oct, 2007 3:10 pm

Here's where you can read about the building of more Coal fired power plants in China and also the US plans of building more:

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20071028/ap_on_sc/coal_resurgence;_ylt=AjDCpT0zS1QyHkWOjMvqGigPLBIF
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Posted: Mon 29 Oct, 2007 10:27 pm

Hey... All I can say is at least I will be growing Coconut palms in 5 years...

Really, this has been going on since the beginning of time, the earth heats and cools...

When I lived in NY we used to hike in the Adirondack mountains. We would alway find palm fossils in the rocks up there...

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Posted: Mon 29 Oct, 2007 11:59 pm

Same here, while the south will be experiencing severe droughts, and severe fires, I will be having good harvests of bananas here in the northern part myself. We will also have near normal rainfall. The only downside is that the CTV could come up here and wipe out my susceptible citruses, but that is at least 15 years away if the current trend of warming stays put and mankind effectively does nothing as a species to help stop the trend. If someone doesn't believe that it is the greenhouse gasses, we would welcome convincing theories, proofs and measurements that other factors are the more definitive causes and what we can do to help stop the trend.
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Posted: Tue 30 Oct, 2007 1:08 am

I cannot understand how global warming can be claimed when the temperature has only risen 1.5C in the last 100 years. As Laaz mentioned above the temperature has warmed and cooled thousands of time in the unlimited past. Today KOA radio (50,000 watts) the number one major radio station in the entire central western region (Colorado, Wyoming, Utah, Kansas, Nebraska New Mexico, Oklahoma, South Dakota, Southern Idaho) spent two hours this morning on the Mike Rosen show with an expert from the UK debunking the theory of "global warming." As usually is the case the expert advocating global warming would not debate and refused to come on the radio.
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Posted: Tue 30 Oct, 2007 2:30 am

Millet, if you have seen the weighted average across the globe, with some spots getting colder and most spots getting warmer, indeed the increase is a mere 1.5 deg C in the last 100 years. Horribly missing from that factual statement is the last twenty years have been exponential in nature. And that is what horrifies me. I have access to prime quality data, having worked with various agrometeorological stations and have taken personal interests in the weather.

Global warming is not a theory, it is a fact now. Even the UN panel has agreed about its anthropogenic origins and recommended several actions to stem the tide. One thing with exponential increase is that it is always too late to react as it will take a life of its own.

The 1.5 deg C, could be a mere increase in our minds, but the issue is far too complex to explain, and that is my major frustration and so most of scientists who try to explain these.

Take for the simplest of these when you try to look at saturation vapor pressure curves, an increase in 1.5 deg would have increased the moisture capacity of air by so much that there would be severe droughts and the rainfall would be more intense when they fall and causing flooding.

Similarly, a mere 1.5 C increase in water temperature will release dissolved gasses or would have decreased the ocean's capacity to absorb more gasses, including Carbon dioxide, thus the release could rival that of mankind's fossil fuel usage.

A mere 1.5 C increase has moved the permafrost line closer towards the poles, melting away large areas of permafrosts which in turn will release more gasses like methane which is 25 times more effective greenhouse gas than carbon dioxide. The estimated amount of gasses could surpass all the fossil fuels burned by mankind if all areas of permafrost were to melt.

The melting away of white areas covered by snow such that of Colorado, the polar regions and various mountainous regions would decrease the earth's reflectivity when absorbing sunlight, aggravating the conversion of sunlight into heat being absorbed by an atmosphere richer in greenhouse gasses.

All of these are positive fedback loops into the system, and the geometric or exponential increase is the give-away fact that we are into the positive feedback loop process that simply horrifies me.

I wish I didn't know what mathematics or modeling is. That, unfortunately for me, is the subject that made me work together with and helped various international scientists of the world, and made me see various prime data. I wish I hadn't analyze thousands of experiments the world over. Those publications may not mention my name but nonetheless, I should at least share with you the implications of those data.

These could not be explained in short TV or radio shows without killing the audience to boredom.
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Posted: Tue 30 Oct, 2007 2:38 am

Sorry Joe, global warming is not happening. 1.5C rise over one hundred years is not warming by any stretch of the imagination. However, you have a great day.
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