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gdbanks Citruholic
Joined: 08 May 2008 Posts: 251 Location: Jersey Village, TX
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Malcolm_Manners Citrus Guru
Joined: 13 Nov 2005 Posts: 676 Location: Lakeland Florida
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Posted: Sat 04 Dec, 2010 9:51 pm |
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I suspect I'm currently the only source of it anywhere. I'm happy to share small amounts of budwood (my tree is less than 2 full years old).
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gdbanks Citruholic
Joined: 08 May 2008 Posts: 251 Location: Jersey Village, TX
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Posted: Sun 05 Dec, 2010 12:17 am |
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i did not know that it was so hard to get (rare). although i would like some budwood i am OK on waiting. that way your tree can get bigger. would you think one or two more years of growth would be better for you? _________________ looking for cold hardy citrus
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Malcolm_Manners Citrus Guru
Joined: 13 Nov 2005 Posts: 676 Location: Lakeland Florida
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Posted: Wed 08 Dec, 2010 4:37 pm |
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Yeah, as far as I know it's not gone into commercial nursery production anywhere. I was given the original budwood from Mrs. Holland's back yard in Dallas, and as far as I know, I may be the only one who ever propagated it (not sure about that, but I'm unaware of others). Then last year, I gave some wood to Skeeter, who has it growing. So now there are two of us.
My tree could likely spare a few sticks this year, certainly lots by next year.
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Millet Citruholic
Joined: 13 Nov 2005 Posts: 6657 Location: Colorado
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Posted: Wed 08 Dec, 2010 6:29 pm |
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What is special or unique about the Mrs Holland avocado, that is not found in other avocado varieties? I don't grow avocados, as I don't use many of them, but as I have never heard of the Mrs. Holland variety you have peaked my curiosity. - Millet (767-) |
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Darkman Citruholic
Joined: 20 Jul 2010 Posts: 968 Location: Pensacola Florida South of I-10 Zone 8b/9a
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Posted: Thu 09 Dec, 2010 1:14 am |
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Yes I'm dying to know too. If Skeeters was successful I can get some from him. _________________ Charles in Pensacola
Life - Some assembly required, As is no warranty, Batteries not included, Instructions shipped separately and are frequently wrong!
Kentucky Bourbon - It may not solve the problem but it helps to make it tolerable! |
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Malcolm_Manners Citrus Guru
Joined: 13 Nov 2005 Posts: 676 Location: Lakeland Florida
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Posted: Thu 09 Dec, 2010 10:12 am |
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'Mrs. Holland' is perhaps the most cold-hardy avocado known, having survived to maturity outdoors in Dallas Texas. That's its claim to fame. Of the other exceedingly hardy types (Gainesville, Duke, Topa Topa, Mexicola), flavor tends to be mediocre at best, whereas Mrs. Holland is actively delicious -- relatively strong, nutty, buttery flavor.
The fruit is tiny -- chicken egg size, and ripens to eggplant black-purple. I have not determined if it is type A or B, nor if it can self-pollinate. |
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Darkman Citruholic
Joined: 20 Jul 2010 Posts: 968 Location: Pensacola Florida South of I-10 Zone 8b/9a
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Posted: Fri 10 Dec, 2010 8:47 pm |
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Malcolm_Manners wrote: | 'Mrs. Holland' is perhaps the most cold-hardy avocado known, having survived to maturity outdoors in Dallas Texas. That's its claim to fame. Of the other exceedingly hardy types (Gainesville, Duke, Topa Topa, Mexicola), flavor tends to be mediocre at best, whereas Mrs. Holland is actively delicious -- relatively strong, nutty, buttery flavor.
The fruit is tiny -- chicken egg size, and ripens to eggplant black-purple. I have not determined if it is type A or B, nor if it can self-pollinate. |
Definately have to mark a spot for that one. _________________ Charles in Pensacola
Life - Some assembly required, As is no warranty, Batteries not included, Instructions shipped separately and are frequently wrong!
Kentucky Bourbon - It may not solve the problem but it helps to make it tolerable! |
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Millet Citruholic
Joined: 13 Nov 2005 Posts: 6657 Location: Colorado
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Posted: Sat 11 Dec, 2010 2:07 am |
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If they are only egg size, is the seed also reduced relatively, to allow for a good amount of pulb? Also any dwarfing? - Millet (765-) |
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Malcolm_Manners Citrus Guru
Joined: 13 Nov 2005 Posts: 676 Location: Lakeland Florida
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Posted: Sat 11 Dec, 2010 5:01 pm |
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Like most of the black-fruited Mexican race types, the seed occupies a relatively large proportion of the total fruit volume, so you get less fruit per pound than you might with other types. Still, there's enough there to be good. You just eat 2 or 3 at one sitting!
Dwarfing -- I never saw Mrs. Holland's original tree, and I've only grown nursery size trees other than the one (now going into its 2nd year) in my yard. But so far, I'd say it is very vigorous and will likely get to be huge eventually. |
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turtleman Citrus Guru
Joined: 30 Nov 2008 Posts: 225 Location: Arizona
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Posted: Mon 13 Dec, 2010 2:13 am |
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Quote: | You just eat 2 or 3 at one sitting! |
LOL.. I eat more than that in one sitting anyways... |
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Mark_T Citruholic
Joined: 30 Jun 2009 Posts: 757 Location: Gilbert,AZ
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Posted: Tue 14 Dec, 2010 9:34 pm |
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I wish there was a variety that could grow in Arizona. I love Avocado!!!
I also wish Millet grew it in containers so I could learn from him! |
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turtleman Citrus Guru
Joined: 30 Nov 2008 Posts: 225 Location: Arizona
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Posted: Wed 15 Dec, 2010 2:45 am |
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I'm working on it MarkT, after seven years I have approval to import from the USDA and permission from the Israeli Government to export a rootstock that will handle our area and soils very well, What I still do Not have is propagation rights to reproduce the rootstock,
Commercially viable Avo's are coming to AZ. |
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Mark_T Citruholic
Joined: 30 Jun 2009 Posts: 757 Location: Gilbert,AZ
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Posted: Wed 15 Dec, 2010 3:56 am |
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turtleman wrote: | I'm working on it MarkT, after seven years I have approval to import from the USDA and permission from the Israeli Government to export a rootstock that will handle our area and soils very well, What I still do Not have is propagation rights to reproduce the rootstock,
Commercially viable Avo's are coming to AZ. |
Please don't pull my chain, this would be a dream come true. Probably the only tree I'd dig up a citrus tree for is an Avocado. What (scion) variety can handle the dry baking heat? Please keep me informed, these trees are the one thing I miss about SoCal.
I see Avocado trees for sale at the HD and Lowes all the time and I know that tree won't make it through August. |
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David. Citruholic
Joined: 09 Nov 2009 Posts: 400 Location: San Benito , Texas
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Posted: Wed 15 Dec, 2010 12:06 pm |
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Lula is a wonderful rootstock and scion variety that hold up extremel well in our heat here in south Texas. Never gets under 95 during the day here highs in the 100+ range. If you look a data from my city were getting to mid 80's today.
So I think lula is a very nice rootstock for our area but might not be in your area. But look into it. _________________ South Texas gardener |
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