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boneyard3
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Posted: Thu 14 Nov, 2013 6:35 pm

Is it possible to grow this tree in a container and kept at about 7 feet with decent pruning?Sure love to grow this tree. I have a Page manderin growing in a container for 5 or 6 years now and it is doing well.I am also looking for a large size pomulo fruit, but do not know which one, please help.

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Posted: Thu 14 Nov, 2013 6:39 pm

Yes, if it is grafted to Flying dragon you should have no problem. My in ground Miyagawa is only about 7-8 ft tall & is 10 years old.

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Posted: Fri 15 Nov, 2013 10:55 am

Regarding the choice of pummelo, I've found that the best of the varieties more readily available around here in N. Fla. (actually the only true pummelo that is readily available here) is the Hirado Buntan. The others, Oro Blanco and Melogold are pummelo-grapefruit hybrids, and good, but not quite as good as the Hirado, and also show their hybrid parentage, so if you want true pummelo, go with the Hirado. Most fruit markets in SE Asia had a white/green fleshed pummelo that was probably even better that the Hirado, though - apparently the variety known as Hirado Buntan in Japan is a white/green fleshed variety, as opposed to the pink-fleshed Florida cultivar of the same name. Others on the forum may be familiar with other varieties, though; it seems like California has a wider array of pummelos available commercially. Two varieties that I'm looking for are Chandler (pink/red flesh; I had one fruit from the grocery that was a darker hue than the Hirado, and if it was indeed the Chandler, it was quite good) and Tahitian. Valentine is a complex hybrid ((Dancy x Ruby Blood Orange) x Siamese Sweet Pummelo) that also has a good reputation.
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Posted: Fri 15 Nov, 2013 11:08 am

The problem with pumelo is they are by nature very large trees. I had a Hirado Buntan next to my front door. I cut it down because it got so large & out of control... Not a good container tree.

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Posted: Fri 15 Nov, 2013 1:44 pm

I have a Miyawgawa, valentine and oroblaco in containers, the valentine is the most vigorous of the three but easy to keep short with pruning. Miyawgawa is the least vigorous but produces great fruit after it gets some size and age. Oroblanco is good, nothing that special. They are all grafted onto FD. I have not tasted the Valentine yet (I have 2 ripening right now) but I hear its a very good tasting fruit. It's large fruit are pigmented with anthocyanin instead lycopene this makes the fruit much more red, then pink as some pommels are adding to its appeal.
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Posted: Fri 15 Nov, 2013 4:16 pm

Thanks everybody,i got a Page, and that need several companions including a kumquat, 2 or 3 oranges that can be grown in containers with good size control(pruning). I would love your suggestions, Bob.
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Posted: Fri 15 Nov, 2013 6:02 pm

Well, certainly Moro blood orange needs to be a part of your orange collection. This is probably my favorite overall citrus. Very Happy

Meiwa or Fukushu are probably the two better kumquat types in my opinion. Fukishu is one of the best looking container trees I have, dwarf, dark green leaves, large sweet juicy fruit & productive
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Posted: Sun 17 Nov, 2013 11:14 pm

At this years Expo, at Dr. Arlie Powell's nursery Petals From The Past the nursery had plates full of many types of peeled mandarin segments for people to taste and evaluate. The mandarin variety that was acclaimed the best tasting among the people that I was around was Brown Select. I personally had never tasted Brown Select before, and from that particular tasting it was better tasting than miyawgawa. At least for that particular tasting. They also had a China-9 satsuma tree. It produces the largest size mandarin fruit I have ever seen. Larger than a navel orange, however I've seen on the CCPP site that China 9 taste is rated as just OK. - Millet
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Posted: Mon 18 Nov, 2013 9:47 am

I have both Miyagawa & Brown select. To me the Miyagawa has always been better.

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Posted: Fri 22 Nov, 2013 10:11 am

This year the Miyagawa satsuma is the best tasting with China #9 and Aoshima not far behind.
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Posted: Fri 22 Nov, 2013 12:41 pm

Oro Blanco is the pummelo variety that Four Winds Growers recommends for container growing. - Millet
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Posted: Fri 22 Nov, 2013 2:47 pm

I guess growing a Miyagawa tree is a save bet and oro blanco is worth checking into it.Blood orange and fukushu are my next tree's to get.can't wait.
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Posted: Fri 22 Nov, 2013 8:49 pm

Well, I wouldn't short-change Chandler pummelo. It is the best of all the pummelos I grow, for straight pummelos. It is simply delicious. And, Four Winds does grow Chandler, so you have some options. Personally, I would opt for either a Oroblanco or a Melogold (the Oroblanco's genetic "sister"). Melogold would be my first choice. I think it is a bit better than the Oroblanco. Thinner skinned, more fruit, a bit sweeter. Otherwise, nearly indistinguishable cultivars, by growth habit, fruit appearance (that's about the only way you can actually tell the difference - Oroblanco fruit has a dimple on the bottom, and the skin is a little thicker). I think the Oroblanco/Melogold hybrids are easier to eat. They don't have that thick, woody core and have far less seeds than pummelos have.

https://www.fourwindsgrowers.com/store/grapefruit-trees.html?page=shop.product_details&flypage=flypage.tpl&product_id=201&category_id=14

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Posted: Fri 22 Nov, 2013 9:31 pm

It is good to know to be on the right track for starters like me.There are a lot of old timers that had to go through years of fumbelings to gether all the citrus wisdom and here i am with one post and i can grow pretty good stuff.
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Posted: Sat 23 Nov, 2013 2:00 am

If I could only grow one citrus tree, the choice would be very very easy--- Xie Shan. - Millet
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