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Millet
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| Posted: Sun 27 Apr, 2008 12:37 am |
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Today, I was at the local Ace Hardware, purchasing a small bag of rooting medium, to root a bunch of hard wood wine grape cuttings. I seen a bag of Miracle Grow Citrus & Cactus mix. Upon examining the bag, it seemed to be mostly just peat moss and perlilte, which would be terrible for both citrus and for cactus. Looking around at the different blends of Miracle grow mixes, they all seemed to be very much the same no matter what the name on the bag was. - Millet |
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Junglekeeper
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Location: Vancouver BC Canada
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| Posted: Sun 27 Apr, 2008 4:05 am |
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Could very well be the same product. Insecticidal soap is sold under various labels but they all have the same formulation. It's a way for the companies to sell more product using a marketing gimmick.
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mikanme
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Location: myrtle beach
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| Posted: Fri 09 May, 2008 5:10 am |
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about the peat moss, I mean, as I don't need anything to hold water.
The mix is definitely not the same as their other mixes. it is much coarser.
I used it to mound for my limequat. since planting it has really leafed out. i will certainly keep my eye out for signs of sogginess... anything I should look for early?
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Millet
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| Posted: Fri 09 May, 2008 10:52 am |
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I could be coarser, but it is still at least 90 percent peat moss. however, it is not clear what you mean by "mound". Is this tree planted in the ground? If so, you should not have use anything but the soil that was removed when you dug the hole. Amendments of any kind should never be used when planting a citrus tree in the ground? - Millet |
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Skeeter
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| Posted: Fri 09 May, 2008 11:12 am |
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I think mikanme is right about it being different, I have used it for cactus, and it appears to have a significant amount of small pine bark flakes (most less than 1/4 in), but for my citrus I use much larger pine bark chunks-- about 1 in.
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mikanme
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| Posted: Fri 09 May, 2008 11:31 am |
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| Millet wrote: | | I could be coarser, but it is still at least 90 percent peat moss. however, it is not clear what you mean by "mound". Is this tree planted in the ground? If so, you should not have use anything but the soil that was removed when you dug the hole. Amendments of any kind should never be used when planting a citrus tree in the ground? - Millet |
Unfortunately the only thing that can be planted in the ground here are things that like soggy feet. Ripped out a bed, put on about 3" of topsoil to get the existing plants up out of the muck. On top of that threw down a good layer of that miracle-gro citrus mix where I was going to plant the limequat, then used the rest to cover the roots. The limequat is higher than the rest of the front of the bed, but not quite as high as the plants at the back. Hence the term mound.
The area where I live is where the slaves used to live because the plantation owners couldn't get anything to grow here. Actually, it's a part of where the slaves used to hide because the plantation owners wouldn't even bother to come back here looking for them. About a mile & half from my house is a now defunct coquina mine. The land around here has very distinct striations. Decent soil, coquina, hard pack clay. Best success for growing anything around here is raised beds. I hate the way it looks, & I have resisted it as long as I could.
If I could be content with growing Vitex, Ilex, Crape Myrtles, River Birches & Pine Trees, everything would be good. But No! I had to go visit Stan the citrus man. I had to taste some of his satsumas. Had to see that new orchard he put in. Curse you citrusman!! Now where can i put that Sanbokan? |
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mikanme
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| Posted: Fri 09 May, 2008 11:35 am |
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| Skeeter wrote: | | I think mikanme is right about it being different, I have used it for cactus, and it appears to have a significant amount of small pine bark flakes (most less than 1/4 in), but for my citrus I use much larger pine bark chunks-- about 1 in. |
So what do you use in planting your citrus, Skeeter? Is that container grown that you use the pine bark stuff? |
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Skeeter
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My seedlings mainly, thay are all in containers. I have several Key limes that will always be in containers as it is too cold here in winter for them to survive, even with help. I have a few rooted cuttings of rootstock that I have recently grafted, they may soon go into the ground.
I usually get most of my pine bark from the woods--slabs of bark off dead trees, but occasionally I buy bark nuggets. I use either miracle grow potting mix or peat moss, for the rest of the media--whatever is most handy. I fertilize with Osmocote.
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Skeeter
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As for growing things in heavy clay, I grew up down here where the soil is very sandy and we always planted gardens. We put the seeds in a trench and then pulled dirt to them as they grew. I move to NC for a while and tried to plant a garden that way--everything died from wet feet eventhough it rains less than half as much as here. I finally learned to plant on top of hills and add a little organic matter and grew some of the best gardens I ever had! That clay soil is full of minerals, you just have to help the roots get into it.
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