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beau_123 Citruholic
Joined: 26 Jun 2007 Posts: 31 Location: South East Louisiana, USA ZONE 9
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Posted: Mon 23 Jul, 2007 12:56 pm |
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hi all, my satsuma tree is very healthy and has alot of new growth, the only problem is that some of the new growth's tips are brownish black, they werent always like this. my satsuma also has a catapiller (sp?) problem, they are tiny, about 1/4", does anyone know of a good bugspray? i was wondering if i could make my own soap and water spray?
thanks for any help guys!
-beau |
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Laaz Site Owner
Joined: 12 Nov 2005 Posts: 5679 Location: Dorchester County, South Carolina
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Posted: Mon 23 Jul, 2007 2:06 pm |
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Get some Ultra-Fine oil form Lowes or HD... _________________ Wal-Mart a great place to buy cheap plastic crap ! http://walmartwatch.com/ ...
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beau_123 Citruholic
Joined: 26 Jun 2007 Posts: 31 Location: South East Louisiana, USA ZONE 9
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Posted: Mon 23 Jul, 2007 2:14 pm |
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thanks laaz!, ill check it out today! _________________ -beau |
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Skeeter Moderator
Joined: 23 Jul 2006 Posts: 2218 Location: Pensacola, FL zone 9
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Posted: Mon 23 Jul, 2007 3:17 pm |
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Hi Beau,
Lazz's recommendation about the oil is good and it will help keep the leaf miners from laying eggs if you have that problem, but your soap solution will work on the caterpillars. _________________ Skeet
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beau_123 Citruholic
Joined: 26 Jun 2007 Posts: 31 Location: South East Louisiana, USA ZONE 9
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Posted: Mon 23 Jul, 2007 7:17 pm |
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thanks, do you know how i could make the soap solution? also do you know whats causing the tips of the new growth to turn brownish black?
thanks again guys! _________________ -beau |
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Skeeter Moderator
Joined: 23 Jul 2006 Posts: 2218 Location: Pensacola, FL zone 9
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Posted: Mon 23 Jul, 2007 11:51 pm |
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I just use a Tbs or so of dishwashing liquid in a gallon of water. Soap kills insects by drowning-- it wets them through their waxy coating.
Can you post pictures of brown tips? _________________ Skeet
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beau_123 Citruholic
Joined: 26 Jun 2007 Posts: 31 Location: South East Louisiana, USA ZONE 9
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Posted: Tue 24 Jul, 2007 12:01 am |
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hey skeet, i will try tomorrow when the suns out, thanks for the help so far! _________________ -beau |
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Laaz Site Owner
Joined: 12 Nov 2005 Posts: 5679 Location: Dorchester County, South Carolina
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Posted: Tue 24 Jul, 2007 12:02 am |
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Brown tips in container citrus usually indicates a salt buildup in the soil. _________________ Wal-Mart a great place to buy cheap plastic crap ! http://walmartwatch.com/ ...
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beau_123 Citruholic
Joined: 26 Jun 2007 Posts: 31 Location: South East Louisiana, USA ZONE 9
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Posted: Tue 24 Jul, 2007 1:04 am |
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do you know what i should do to get rid of it? flush it perhaps?
thanks! _________________ -beau |
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beau_123 Citruholic
Joined: 26 Jun 2007 Posts: 31 Location: South East Louisiana, USA ZONE 9
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Posted: Wed 25 Jul, 2007 3:17 pm |
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_________________ -beau |
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Skeeter Moderator
Joined: 23 Jul 2006 Posts: 2218 Location: Pensacola, FL zone 9
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Posted: Wed 25 Jul, 2007 3:56 pm |
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Hi Beau, I don't know what caused the brown tips -- it looks more like some kind of contact damage to me. You have a lot of other new growth that looks fine. You do have leaf miners, so Lazz's suggestion of oil will help keep the adult moths from laying eggs-- soap is not much help with the leaf miners. _________________ Skeet
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Steve Citruholic
Joined: 10 Sep 2007 Posts: 253 Location: Southern Germany
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Posted: Wed 12 Sep, 2007 7:48 am |
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Hello,
well for soap...
Use natural soap, nothing with Tensides. Even if Tensides do the same as natural soap, some Tensides are toxid to plant tissue and thus should be avoided.
Natural Soap come from potash and will cause no harm, ask your pharmacist if he can get some. It's not expensive and much better for the use.
So I use 1 ounze natural soap to one Ouart of water, and I add about 3 tsp. of ethylic alcohol and stir well.
This solution works best.
About the brown leaf tips:
Looks much about a fertilizer burn.... or salt damage.
So what potting mix do you use and what fertilizer? How often do you feed?
Maybe the poting mix is to low in pH, because low potting mix reaction permits salt damage....
Since,
Steve _________________ Eerh, hmm, uuuh, oooh, just guessing |
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Millet Citruholic
Joined: 13 Nov 2005 Posts: 6656 Location: Colorado
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Posted: Wed 12 Sep, 2007 5:16 pm |
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Although this is an old posting, it seems to have been revised in new interest, therefore, I would like to answer it as it might help other growers, who's trees are experiencing the same symptoms. Looking at the pictures, it is almost certainly caused by high soluble salt levels. When soluble salt levels become too high, root injury, which is ALWAYS FIRST SEEN as above ground foliage injury, may occur. This may result in temporary wilting (even though the mix is moist), leaf tip burn, marginal yellowing (or both as seen in the picture), only marginal yellowing, burning of the leaf margin, and in extreme cases, chlorosis or yellowing of the leaves. These symptoms show up particularly on the YOUNGER leaves. Soluble salt injury is caused by a competition for water between the plant and the chemical salts. As the medium dries, the concentration of salts increases. A medium containing 500 ppm soluble salts at 50% moisture will contain 1000 ppm at 25% moisture. If you have a Solu-Bridge, soluble salts are very easily measured. Mix one part growth medium with two parts water, allow to stand for 15 to 20 minutes, then check with the Solu-Bridge. - Millet |
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