Citrus Growers Forum

danero2004 · Posted: Mon 17 Oct, 2011 2:40 am

Lemandarangequatelo wrote:

danero2004 wrote:

Air pots are not the same with rootmakers pots , different behaviour on roots , as you can look closely

thanks

We must be looking at different things because I totally disagree, but good luck to you. I hope you find the Rootmaker pots you want.

Sorry if I didn't explained right , yes indeed I don't want the round pots with holes all over it (horizontally) but instead I want this type (Rootmaker company makes both of them , one is called AirPot and it is what you showed me and the other pot is what I need)

see for your self closely .... Smile

Lemandarangequatelo · Citruholic Joined: 01 Mar 2010 Posts: 485 Location: UK

Danero thanks for explaining, yes I see what you mean now Smile

Mark thanks for the copper hydroxide paint tip, I've been searching for a cheaper alternative to the air pruning type pots. I guess the only advantage the air pruning type pots would have is they allow greater aeration of the soil due to all their holes?

danero2004 · Posted: Mon 17 Oct, 2011 6:16 am

I have build my own air pots ...later I will post some pictures

Mark · Posted: Mon 17 Oct, 2011 10:18 am

Millet wrote:

Mark, it has never crossed my mind to measure a Root Maker roll. Some how I have always thought that the tall roll was 30 inches. Therefore, after reading your above post I went out and measured my tall Root Maker roll. It is indeed exactly 34 inches tall, just as it is advertised. I also measured the smaller Root Maker rolls and they are a full 18 inches. About wasting money when I cut down a roll, maybe your right, but we are certinly not talking about much money. Besides, I wanted a 27 inch roll. - Millet (456-)

Thanks a bunch for caring......taking the time. Perhaps I'm just splitting hairs but being shorted more than 10% kinda makes me mad. I called them and they're willing to take it back including paying return shipping. Perhaps I should spring for the 34", cut it to the height I want and save the rest for making short pots? A 34" roll is $289.

BTW, what kind of a bottom are you using? Dr. Whitcomb is trying to sell me on their trapper fabric bottoms, but I'm thinking "why do I want to terminate most roots at the bottom if the intent is to let the tree's roots find and grow into natural soil?" I never really got a clear answer from him, or, didn't like the one given LOL. Confused

Thoughts please......

Mark · Posted: Mon 17 Oct, 2011 10:50 am

Lemandarangequatelo wrote:

Danero thanks for explaining, yes I see what you mean now Smile

Mark thanks for the copper hydroxide paint tip, I've been searching for a cheaper alternative to the air pruning type pots. I guess the only advantage the air pruning type pots would have is they allow greater aeration of the soil due to all their holes?

Don't know as I have not yet tried them. I'm buying into the concepts and system with Root Maker. I do know that Griffin's Spin-Out works well with all plant material I've tried it with. The treated pot needs to be cleaned thoroughly needless to say. I use the spray can which I don't think are available anymore. The latex paint isn't cheap either last time I checked.

Millet · Posted: Mon 17 Oct, 2011 11:57 am

Mark, on some of my large containers that I might want to move to a new location in the greenhouse, or outside for the summer, I use the root trapper fabric. I also have some permanent trees (and tender grape varieties) growing in the greenhouse that are open to the ground. The root trapper fabric really does work very well. About Griffin's Spin-out copper hydroxide as a method of controlling the roots, I never use it because it kills the roots through copper's toxicity to the tree. Anyway, I don't need it because I prefer to use air root pruning system. If Root Maker is willing to trade rolls, and even pay the return freight I would take them up on it. Since you have already paid one inbound freight charge on the first order, I would also make them pay the freight on the second return shipment.

Millet (455-)

Mark · Posted: Tue 18 Oct, 2011 12:41 am

Millet wrote:

Mark, on some of my large containers that I might want to move to a new location in the greenhouse, or outside for the summer, I use the root trapper fabric. I also have some permanent trees (and tender grape varieties) growing in the greenhouse that are open to the ground. The root trapper fabric really does work very well. About Griffin's Spin-out copper hydroxide as a method of controlling the roots, I never use it because it kills the roots through copper's toxicity to the tree. Anyway, I don't need it because I prefer to use air root pruning system. If Root Maker is willing to trade rolls, and even pay the return freight I would take them up on it. Since you have already paid one inbound freight charge on the first order, I would also make them pay the freight on the second return shipment.

Millet (455-)

Tough customer! I'll give it a go.

BTW, copper hydroxide applied paint only kills the root tip due to exposure to Cu ions located adjacent to the pot walls, about 1 cm. It is not translocated via the root.

Mark

danero2004 · Posted: Tue 18 Oct, 2011 7:06 am

my version of pots Embarassed

Mark · Posted: Tue 18 Oct, 2011 9:49 am

danero2004 wrote:

[URL=http://www.imagebam.com/image/992137154555517]

my version of pots Embarassed

Nice!

What is that stuff? You are going to drill holes in all of the indentations?

Millet · Posted: Tue 18 Oct, 2011 12:06 pm

The square Root Maker container shown above in Denaro's post has a big advantage over the Air Pot design. On the inside of the container that Denaro's pictures, there are many ridges around the inside wall that actually directs the root tips straight to the air root pruning holes. Therefore it is not hit or miss, if a root tip will hit a hole or not. I have used many of these containers and they work great. - Millet (454-)