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Mark_T Citruholic
Joined: 30 Jun 2009 Posts: 757 Location: Gilbert,AZ
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David. Citruholic
Joined: 09 Nov 2009 Posts: 400 Location: San Benito , Texas
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Posted: Thu 29 Jul, 2010 7:08 pm |
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Wow that citrus is awesome. This goes way beyond a variegated variety. This is a true collectors item _________________ South Texas gardener |
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Mark_T Citruholic
Joined: 30 Jun 2009 Posts: 757 Location: Gilbert,AZ
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Posted: Thu 29 Jul, 2010 7:52 pm |
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I know, they are amazing. |
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David. Citruholic
Joined: 09 Nov 2009 Posts: 400 Location: San Benito , Texas
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Posted: Fri 30 Jul, 2010 2:24 am |
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Mark_T wrote: | I know, they are amazing. | No chance we will ever get these varities _________________ South Texas gardener |
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covrig Citruholic
Joined: 14 Aug 2009 Posts: 102
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Posted: Fri 30 Jul, 2010 4:01 am |
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Why not?
I know someone who sells it. But in Europe. _________________ --
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David. Citruholic
Joined: 09 Nov 2009 Posts: 400 Location: San Benito , Texas
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Posted: Fri 30 Jul, 2010 1:06 pm |
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But in Europe.
I'm in the USA. _________________ South Texas gardener |
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covrig Citruholic
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Posted: Sat 31 Jul, 2010 8:44 am |
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I know that. That's way I said "But in Europe".
Though I find it impossible to not find one in the US. I've been there a couple of times and you can find whatever you wish for there.
Search the internet and you will surely find it. _________________ --
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MarcV Moderator
Joined: 03 Mar 2010 Posts: 1489 Location: Schoten (Antwerp), Belgium
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David. Citruholic
Joined: 09 Nov 2009 Posts: 400 Location: San Benito , Texas
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Posted: Sat 31 Jul, 2010 6:36 pm |
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covrig wrote: | I know that. That's way I said "But in Europe".
Though I find it impossible to not find one in the US. I've been there a couple of times and you can find whatever you wish for there.
Search the internet and you will surely find it. |
I might come off alittle rude. Sorry
But yeah it si very hard to find here and to top it off they are really strict here on importing any citrus here. _________________ South Texas gardener |
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pagnr Citrus Guru
Joined: 23 Aug 2008 Posts: 407 Location: Australia
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Posted: Sat 14 Aug, 2010 8:00 pm |
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I remember that someone created chimera hybrids between tomato and black nightshade. They split the buds in half thru the eye.., and made one bud from two different halves. If they shot out and tissues united, a chimera formed. |
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Mark_T Citruholic
Joined: 30 Jun 2009 Posts: 757 Location: Gilbert,AZ
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Posted: Sun 15 Aug, 2010 1:40 am |
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pagnr wrote: | I remember that someone created chimera hybrids between tomato and black nightshade. They split the buds in half thru the eye.., and made one bud from two different halves. If they shot out and tissues united, a chimera formed. |
Interesting stuff, pagnr. I wonder why this isn't more common. I mean you have this group of Bizarria trees, that are explained as graft chimera's. So some apparent rarity happened several times in one garden? What are the odds? |
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citrange Site Admin
Joined: 24 Nov 2005 Posts: 590 Location: UK - 15 miles west of London
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Posted: Sun 15 Aug, 2010 2:47 pm |
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I haven't heard of more than one graft chimera ever ocurring in the same garden.
I would guess that the only way to possibly try to deliberately create a citrus graft chimera would be to use the micro-propagation methods used to eliminate citrus virusses. In this case you would precisely split the growing points of two different varieties and join the different halves.
However, normal micropropagation is a highly skilled laboratory procedure. Further dissection and propagation would be even more difficult, and even then results would be uncertain. Without any commercial application I don't suppose many labs would be interested in trying.
By the way, is the graft chimera "+Laburnocytisus Adamii" ever seen in the US? Here in England I know of two examples of this very strange laburnum tree. It produces mainly standard yellow Laburnum flowers, but purple Broom flowers in places. |
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pagnr Citrus Guru
Joined: 23 Aug 2008 Posts: 407 Location: Australia
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Posted: Fri 20 Aug, 2010 6:23 pm |
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Even then, the existing Citrus graft chimeras are all accidental [?] , so no one is attempting to create them by using particular techniques. Possibly using large chip buds with big eyes, parafilm/buddytape etc and razor blades,( and a few old videotapes of MacGyver), you might be able to try it yourself ? The tomato/nightshade was done years ago, so it was pretty basic. Nowdays there is probably more being done with somatic hybrids, fusing pollen or cells to create chimeras for genetic studies. |
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Mark_T Citruholic
Joined: 30 Jun 2009 Posts: 757 Location: Gilbert,AZ
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Posted: Fri 20 Aug, 2010 8:13 pm |
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They are amazing trees, so I could see a market in reproducing it. I thought most of the Bizarria Citrus were in the Italian gardens which why I said the same garden. Sorry, for the mistake. |
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