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Cactusrequiem
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Joined: 13 Nov 2005
Posts: 229
Location: North Charleston, SC

Posted: Tue 27 Dec, 2005 2:44 pm

I wasn't sure where to put this, I have all my Citrus in pots so I thought it would work here.
Ok, here are some observations and questions, It was a bad idea for me to find “The Citrus Industry Volume 1”online....Thanks Millet! LOL
Quote: “With regard to varietal description, even though the sampling provides representative materials, it is
obvious that detailed and exact descriptions are accurate and meaningful only for a given environment or similar
conditions of climate and rootstock. Thus, descriptions of the same varieties in different countries or states often fail
to correspond in important respects. Perhaps the best illustration is afforded by the differences between Florida and
California varieties. Detailed descriptions of Florida varieties grown in California are far from accurate for Florida
conditions, and vice versa.”
Does this mean that If I grow something here in Charleston and Joe in Colorado grows the same variety, they are not
going to taste the same? I guess it makes sense, but wouldn’t this lead to the conclusion that there are perhaps,
Millions of varieties? This doesn’t even consider the polyembric tendencies of some seeds.
Maybe I am trying to read too much into it. An Owari is an Owari, whether it is grown in South Carolina or
Colorado right? It goes along with ones taste, Some people like the taste of a Rangpur..I don’t find it too bad, Some
people think it tastes like garbage.
Any comments?
Darren
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Laaz
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Joined: 12 Nov 2005
Posts: 5642
Location: Dorchester County, South Carolina

Posted: Tue 27 Dec, 2005 3:19 pm

Hi Darren. Rootstock can have an effect on the the quality & taste of the fruit. Heat and humidity have a big effect on the quality & taste of the fruit. Florida is much more "Hot & humid" than California therefore Grapefruit which require a great amount of heat will be much sweeter from a FL source than from a CA source... Different soil types can also have an effect on the growth & taste of fruit. To answer your question, yes the same fruit from different locations will taste different and many times look a bit different.
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JoeReal
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Joined: 16 Nov 2005
Posts: 4726
Location: Davis, California

Posted: Tue 27 Dec, 2005 4:06 pm

That's why we really have to try them out specifically in our yard. Mind you, it can vary even within your yard. More mature trees produces juicer and better tasting fruits, so that means, a couple years of fruit tasting is not even sure. Along with this is that we don't exactly have the same weather pattern each year. But of course, we treat these reported descriptions as guidelines. For me there are a few major distinct tastes like Grapefruits, Lemons, Limes, Oranges, Blood oranges, kumquats, Calamondins, etc.

Now from within each group, sweetness, acidity, bitterness and tartness, mileage taste could vary on the exact specific area grown including the weather and soil, and how grown, including fertilizers, irrigation and all your vodoo rituals [more of the non-scientific part] or arts and unexplainable techniques.

Generally in our area, when the fruit matures towards the hotter days, towards May to September, the fruits are tastier and sweeter. Some varieties seem not to be affected by temperature, like the Oro Blancos, they retain their distinct sweetness (provided harvested at right time), when grown in the cooler coastal areas or in the hotter inland valleys. But the sister of Oro Blanco, Melogold, is strongly influenced by temperature. It never sweetens when it is harvested when the ripening stage falls on the coolest parts of the year here in the Northern California area.

Not only the tastes vary, but skin color as well. When the nights are really cooler in contrast to the daytime highs, the skin develops deeper colors, like the California oranges. The colors are deep orange but yet they are not ready for eating. In Florida with warmer nights, the same orange variety may still have green color on the skin but the fruits are ready for eating.
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Millet
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Joined: 13 Nov 2005
Posts: 6657
Location: Colorado

Posted: Wed 28 Dec, 2005 1:58 am

To further expand on Joe's thoughts. Certain red fleshed oranges turn red when grown in cooler regions, but the flesh does not turn red in hotter regions. The time of harvest changes in different locations for the same variety. Peel thickness can be thicker or thinner depending on the area grown. - Millet
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