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opedemeiadojoao
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| Posted: Fri 09 Nov, 2012 4:57 am |
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Would like to identify this one
Well, I thought it was a Meyer, but then hoosierquilt told me Meyers don't smell like tangerine...
The story goes like this: some 20 years ago the tree (bought as a lemon tree, at an agricultural fair) was planted. It is about 6 feet tall and is growing in the middle of the street. The owner tells me it is a "lemon-lime", whatever that means...
The tree is actually a rootstock that has long overgrown the scion (hence my Meyer suspicion). It produces rounder than "normal" lemons, wich are very easy to peel, emanating a distinct tangerine odor. The flesh is acid and woudn't be mistaken for anything but a lemon. Decent lemonade, but then again, they are not quite ripe yet... Caipirinha and Mojito will be my next scientifical tests. |
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Laaz
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| Posted: Fri 09 Nov, 2012 9:49 am |
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It does look a lot like Meyer.
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hoosierquilt
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| Posted: Fri 09 Nov, 2012 3:46 pm |
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I agree, it does look like a Meyer, but Meyer lemons definitely do not have any mandarin smell whatsoever. More a lemon smell and for me, a bit of a pine smell as well, especially for the over ripe fruits. Do these lemons eventually turn orangish yellow, or do they stay lemon yellow?
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opedemeiadojoao
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| Posted: Mon 12 Nov, 2012 5:59 pm |
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| hoosierquilt wrote: | | I agree, it does look like a Meyer, but Meyer lemons definitely do not have any mandarin smell whatsoever. More a lemon smell and for me, a bit of a pine smell as well, especially for the over ripe fruits. Do these lemons eventually turn orangish yellow, or do they stay lemon yellow? |
I've been told they turn "orangish" and they allready seem so... unfortunatly people keep taking the ripest ones so can't really tell. Will take more photos, with more controlable camera to hilighten certain aspects. Namely the bark of the main trunk wich has a very prety stripped pattern.
Do Meyers cross easily enough to consider that possibility? The lemon\mandarin cross is what I have in mind... |
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Laaz
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| Posted: Mon 12 Nov, 2012 6:12 pm |
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If they turn orange, they are Meyer lemons. Meyer does not come true, so it may be a seedling of a Meyer.
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hoosierquilt
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| Posted: Mon 12 Nov, 2012 6:20 pm |
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Yes, the Meyer lemon is a fairly strong monoembryonic cultivar, so the majority of your seeds would be zygotic hybrids (you can tell if your seed just has two cotelydons and the sprout - that's a monoembronic seed). I do believe it has some propensity to also have a small percentage of polyembryonic seeds as well, however.
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opedemeiadojoao
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| Posted: Mon 12 Nov, 2012 6:35 pm |
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| Laaz wrote: | | If they turn orange, they are Meyer lemons. Meyer does not come true, so it may be a seedling of a Meyer. |
And it is growing on its own roots. It definitly smells like mandarin.
Will grow some seedlings just for fun...
And take some buds more seriously, I wonder different rootstocks... |
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Laaz
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| Posted: Mon 12 Nov, 2012 6:45 pm |
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Meyer is one lemon that takes well to almost any type of rootstock.
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opedemeiadojoao
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| Posted: Mon 12 Nov, 2012 7:47 pm |
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| hoosierquilt wrote: | | Yes, the Meyer lemon is a fairly strong monoembryonic cultivar, so the majority of your seeds would be zygotic hybrids (you can tell if your seed just has two cotelydons and the sprout - that's a monoembronic seed). I do believe it has some propensity to also have a small percentage of polyembryonic seeds as well, however. |
Just in front, there is as row of old Baia Navels, on sour orange (I think), nearest citrus polen in the area (I dream)...
Anyway, back to the pseudo-Meyer, it seem to be hardy enough to stand on its own roots, here (zone 10). Think I'll grow some seeds in situ, graft them somewhere for trials, and use healthier roots as generic rootstock for lemon. Expect them to dwarf a bit but to tell you the truth theese last winters have been quite hard on lemon trees around here, and this particular plant shows no scars. Can also root cuts from original tree, for rootstock purpose... but there is something about growing from seed... |
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Laaz
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| Posted: Sun 25 Nov, 2012 11:17 am |
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| Quote: | | Anyway, back to the pseudo-Meyer, it seem to be hardy enough to stand on its own roots, here (zone 10). |
Meyer will survive in a 8b climate I believe. I am in a 9a & my Meyer does very well in the ground. We have dropped into the high teens on occasion & have not had any damage to the tree.
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