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Sanguinello Gest
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Posted: Sat 04 Aug, 2012 6:28 am |
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Sylvain Site Admin
Joined: 16 Nov 2007 Posts: 790 Location: Bergerac, France.
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Posted: Sat 04 Aug, 2012 10:06 am |
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This is not true. And I am very astonished that Jorma wrote that.
And don't forget:
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Sanguinello Gest
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Posted: Sat 04 Aug, 2012 10:23 am |
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This NOSE .... |
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Laaz Site Owner
Joined: 12 Nov 2005 Posts: 5642 Location: Dorchester County, South Carolina
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Posted: Sat 04 Aug, 2012 10:25 am |
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Actually I believe that sour orange has genetic variegation. The tree I gave my neighbor & thought was yuzu, is in fact sour orange. I found the tag on a lower branch. Joe sent me the seed he got from UCR labeled variegated UCR sour orange. The thing is only a percentage of fruit & leaves show variegation. _________________ Wal-Mart a great place to buy cheap plastic crap ! http://walmartwatch.com/ ...
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Sanguinello Gest
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Posted: Sat 04 Aug, 2012 10:27 am |
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aha ...
very interesting ... |
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Roberto Citruholic
Joined: 02 Jun 2009 Posts: 132 Location: Vienna/Austria
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Posted: Thu 30 Aug, 2012 6:41 pm |
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I brought a big sample of seed from various varigated types of C. aurantium home from a trip to Palermo. The botanic garden of Palermo is really great and very old. Most of these seeds brought about completely white plants. Some were variegated. None of them survived. About the "swiss orange" sometimes can be read that it was a chimera. On mine variegated leaves are rarely found.
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Sanguinello Gest
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Posted: Thu 30 Aug, 2012 6:44 pm |
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Same here ...
Even the fully green ones die soon ...
Normally no seedling ever dies ... |
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Millet Citruholic
Joined: 13 Nov 2005 Posts: 6657 Location: Colorado
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Posted: Fri 31 Aug, 2012 1:27 am |
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I respect Jorma. I like Jorma's web site. Jorma is quite intelligent about citrus. Unfortunately, Jorma is WRONG about variegation. It stuns me he would put that on his web page. It has been LONG KNOWN, LONG KNOWN that variegation is not true from seed. I sent Jorma an E-mail telling his so.
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Laaz Site Owner
Joined: 12 Nov 2005 Posts: 5642 Location: Dorchester County, South Carolina
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Posted: Tue 25 Sep, 2012 12:57 pm |
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Like I said, this variety I believe does produce variegated from seed. I have a bunch of fruit on my tree this year & will plant the seed & see what they produce. I will take some photos from my neighbors tree which was grown from seed citrus Joes send me years ago from UCR's variegated sour orange. _________________ Wal-Mart a great place to buy cheap plastic crap ! http://walmartwatch.com/ ...
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Sanguinello Gest
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Posted: Tue 25 Sep, 2012 1:22 pm |
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Nice !
I will try to get such seeds too ... |
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Hershell Moderator
Joined: 23 Nov 2009 Posts: 339 Location: Ga. zone 8
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Posted: Thu 10 Jan, 2013 12:26 am |
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There is corn that comes true variegated from seed. I be leave Park seed has it. So if corn has a gene that can carry that trait it could be possible in citrus. Dr. Hanna explained it to me once but I don't remember the details. _________________ Hershell
Nothing in the world takes the place of growing citrus. |
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Laaz Site Owner
Joined: 12 Nov 2005 Posts: 5642 Location: Dorchester County, South Carolina
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Hershell Moderator
Joined: 23 Nov 2009 Posts: 339 Location: Ga. zone 8
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Posted: Tue 22 Jan, 2013 10:34 pm |
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Beautiful and that is all I will say! _________________ Hershell
Nothing in the world takes the place of growing citrus. |
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Sylvain Site Admin
Joined: 16 Nov 2007 Posts: 790 Location: Bergerac, France.
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Posted: Wed 23 Jan, 2013 5:00 am |
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Could you post a picture of the original variegated orange?
Fruits and leaves. |
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Laaz Site Owner
Joined: 12 Nov 2005 Posts: 5642 Location: Dorchester County, South Carolina
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Posted: Wed 23 Jan, 2013 10:41 am |
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This is the UCR tree, inscription fits perfectly.
Quote: | History of this accession and Panache indicate they could (or should) not be the same, but description of Panache in The Citrus Industry would fit this accession pretty well. Variegation in foliage is scattered in tree, most leaves have none. Fruit variegation is seen in virtually all fruit to a greater or lesser extent; this consists of depressed rind areas of light yellow, generally running longitudinally from stem end to apex. On some fruits, most of the rind surface is depressed and pale yellow. Interior is typical of sour orange. |
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