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Sanguinello
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Posted: Sat 04 Aug, 2012 6:28 am

http://users.kymp.net/citruspages/souroranges.html#variegated

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Variegated varieties grow true from seed.
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Sylvain
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Posted: Sat 04 Aug, 2012 10:06 am

This is not true. And I am very astonished that Jorma wrote that.

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Sanguinello
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Posted: Sat 04 Aug, 2012 10:23 am

This NOSE .... Razz
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Laaz
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Posted: Sat 04 Aug, 2012 10:25 am

Actually I believe that sour orange has genetic variegation. The tree I gave my neighbor & thought was yuzu, is in fact sour orange. I found the tag on a lower branch. Joe sent me the seed he got from UCR labeled variegated UCR sour orange. The thing is only a percentage of fruit & leaves show variegation.

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Sanguinello
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Posted: Sat 04 Aug, 2012 10:27 am

aha ...

very interesting ...
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Roberto
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Posted: Thu 30 Aug, 2012 6:41 pm

I brought a big sample of seed from various varigated types of C. aurantium home from a trip to Palermo. The botanic garden of Palermo is really great and very old. Most of these seeds brought about completely white plants. Some were variegated. None of them survived. About the "swiss orange" sometimes can be read that it was a chimera. On mine variegated leaves are rarely found.
/Robert
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Sanguinello
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Posted: Thu 30 Aug, 2012 6:44 pm

Same here ...

Even the fully green ones die soon ... Sad

Normally no seedling ever dies ...
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Millet
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Posted: Fri 31 Aug, 2012 1:27 am

I respect Jorma. I like Jorma's web site. Jorma is quite intelligent about citrus. Unfortunately, Jorma is WRONG about variegation. It stuns me he would put that on his web page. It has been LONG KNOWN, LONG KNOWN that variegation is not true from seed. I sent Jorma an E-mail telling his so.

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Laaz
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Posted: Tue 25 Sep, 2012 12:57 pm

Like I said, this variety I believe does produce variegated from seed. I have a bunch of fruit on my tree this year & will plant the seed & see what they produce. I will take some photos from my neighbors tree which was grown from seed citrus Joes send me years ago from UCR's variegated sour orange.

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Posted: Tue 25 Sep, 2012 1:22 pm

Nice !

I will try to get such seeds too ...
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Posted: Thu 10 Jan, 2013 12:26 am

There is corn that comes true variegated from seed. I be leave Park seed has it. So if corn has a gene that can carry that trait it could be possible in citrus. Dr. Hanna explained it to me once but I don't remember the details.

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Posted: Tue 22 Jan, 2013 10:21 pm

Grown from seed of the variegated sour orange from UCR...




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Posted: Tue 22 Jan, 2013 10:34 pm

Beautiful and that is all I will say!

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Posted: Wed 23 Jan, 2013 5:00 am

Could you post a picture of the original variegated orange?
Fruits and leaves.
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Posted: Wed 23 Jan, 2013 10:41 am

This is the UCR tree, inscription fits perfectly.

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History of this accession and Panache indicate they could (or should) not be the same, but description of Panache in The Citrus Industry would fit this accession pretty well. Variegation in foliage is scattered in tree, most leaves have none. Fruit variegation is seen in virtually all fruit to a greater or lesser extent; this consists of depressed rind areas of light yellow, generally running longitudinally from stem end to apex. On some fruits, most of the rind surface is depressed and pale yellow. Interior is typical of sour orange.


http://www.citrusvariety.ucr.edu/citrus/variegated_sour.html

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