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Scott_6B
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Posted: Sun 21 Jul, 2013 9:57 am

I was poking around the USDA Germplasm Resources Information Network and came across a few new (to me) variegated varieties.

Does anyone have these? A couple of them were imported to the USA from Tintori, but are still in quarantine.

Imperial Variegated Orange
http://www.ars-grin.gov/cgi-bin/npgs/acc/display.pl?1434542

Variegated Tahiti Lime (possibly)
http://www.ars-grin.gov/cgi-bin/npgs/acc/display.pl?1846912


Italian Pink Fleshed Variegated Lemon
http://www.ars-grin.gov/cgi-bin/npgs/acc/display.pl?1846907


Allen Variegated Lemon
http://www.ars-grin.gov/cgi-bin/npgs/acc/display.pl?1434255

Small Fruited Variegated Citron
http://www.ars-grin.gov/cgi-bin/npgs/acc/display.pl?1829692

Not a Variegated Buddha's Hand
Looks like the USDA Citrus and Date Station was misled on Ebay. Laughing
http://www.ars-grin.gov/cgi-bin/npgs/acc/display.pl?1826611

Variegated Washington Navel
Could this be the the Logees Tiger Navel? The description doesn't seem to match though.
http://www.ars-grin.gov/cgi-bin/npgs/acc/display.pl?1434494
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ivica
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Posted: Sun 21 Jul, 2013 4:01 pm

Thanks Scott, very interesting.

Maybe Italian Pink Fleshed Variegated Lemon is what I have ?
Considering my location, that makes more sense than that I have Variegated pink fleshed Eureka. Question

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Sylvain
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Posted: Sun 21 Jul, 2013 6:13 pm

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Does anyone have these? A couple of them were imported to the USA from Tintori, but are still in quarantine.

Imperial Variegated Orange
http://www.ars-grin.gov/cgi-bin/npgs/acc/display.pl?1434542

Variegated Tahiti Lime (possibly)
http://www.ars-grin.gov/cgi-bin/npgs/acc/display.pl?1846912
Yes, I have both.
The Imperial Variegated Orange is in France called "orange rayée du Brésil", Brazilian striped orange.
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Scott_6B
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Posted: Mon 22 Jul, 2013 12:33 pm

Yes Ivica, that would make sense, there is also a separate entry for the variegated pink fleshed Eureka: http://www.ars-grin.gov/cgi-bin/npgs/acc/display.pl?1434251

Sylvan, I was thinking that at least one or two of you guys in Europe had some of these. What is your opinion on the "variegated Tahiti Lime"? Lime or citron/lemon hybrid?
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According to David Karp (see Source History): "This accession has been tentatively proposed at the Tintori Nursery as a variegated sport of Tahiti lime or a similar fruit, but the owners also append the notation, 'da classificare', 'needs to be classified.' Both the foliage and the fruit are variegated, but the flesh is straw-colored, and the aroma too seems more indicative of a citron-lemon hybrid." (RR Krueger, 09/02/2010)
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Posted: Mon 22 Jul, 2013 5:46 pm

I am myself very confused and puzzled.
We had a discussion about it at the end of this page:
http://www.agrumes-passion.com/echanges-agrumes-f54/topic2530.html
On the next page you can see my fruits.
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Posted: Mon 22 Jul, 2013 6:33 pm

It looks like you need to be a member at Argumes Passion to view that page.
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Posted: Tue 23 Jul, 2013 2:24 am

Sorry.
The conclusion is that it is very different from the regular Tahiti lime but it is of the "lime" type.
For example there are seeds in the variegated lime and they are rare in the Tahiti fruits.
The pictures:





Here the variegated is on the left, already pressed, regular Tahiti fruit on right.
The white balance isn't good. The flesh is white, not green like limes nor yellow like lemons.

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Posted: Tue 23 Jul, 2013 5:07 am

I have the italian pink fleshed variegated lemon,the fruit starts to ripe now.










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Scott_6B
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Posted: Tue 23 Jul, 2013 12:43 pm

Sylvain:
So it seems to be a Lime, just not a Tahiti Lime. Are there any other variegated limes out there?

Grad:
Your Variegated Pink Fleshed Italian Lemon looks really nice!
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Posted: Tue 23 Jul, 2013 5:32 pm

> Are there any other variegated limes out there?
Not that i know.
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Posted: Tue 23 Jul, 2013 8:41 pm

The fruit on the left looks way over ripe.

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Posted: Mon 29 Jul, 2013 7:35 am

Laaz wrote:
The fruit on the left looks way over ripe.

I've impression that photo colors are a bit enhanced (too much red there?).

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