Citrus Growers Forum Index Citrus Growers Forum

This is the read-only version of the Citrus Growers Forum.

Breaking news: the Citrus Growers Forum is reborn from its ashes!

Citrus Growers v2.0

What is the pH preference for Cleopatra mandarin?

 
Citrus Growers Forum Index du Forum -> In ground citrus
Author Message
A.T. Hagan
Moderator
Moderator


Joined: 14 Dec 2005
Posts: 898
Location: Gainesville, Florida, United States, Earth - Sol III

Posted: Thu 20 Apr, 2006 11:46 am

I have a Page orange on a Cleo rootstock in my orchard that I'm having a problem with. Of the nine citrus that I have in the ground it is easily the palest in leaf color of them all which has me wondering if maybe the pH of its soil is too low? Most of what I have is on trifoliate with a couple of unknowns. Everything is fertilized and watered the same way and except for the Page it all has good color. I haven't tested the soil it's in, but I know I've never limed that particular spot and all of the unammended soil around here is somewhat acid to begin with plus my usual fertilizing regimen runs to the acid. Should I sweeten its soil?

.....Alan.
Back to top
Malcolm_Manners
Citrus Guru
Citrus Guru


Joined: 13 Nov 2005
Posts: 676
Location: Lakeland Florida

Posted: Thu 20 Apr, 2006 10:56 pm

Cleo, like all true genus citrus root systems, would like a higher pH than does Poncirus or its hybrids. Anything in the 6's should be ok, with 6.5 being ideal. On the other hand, Poncirus and its hybrids would prefer the 5.5-6.0 range.
Back to top
Millet
Citruholic
Citruholic


Joined: 13 Nov 2005
Posts: 6657
Location: Colorado

Posted: Thu 20 Apr, 2006 11:56 pm

Dr. Manners, there was a post the other day about the pH of Florida soils. Generally(ball park), are Florida's soil acidic or basic? -Millet
Back to top
Malcolm_Manners
Citrus Guru
Citrus Guru


Joined: 13 Nov 2005
Posts: 676
Location: Lakeland Florida

Posted: Sat 22 Apr, 2006 1:50 am

In the main citrus producing regions, the pH tends to be acidic. Here on the sandy central Ridge, 4.5-5.0 would be about normal for virgin soils. Our well water, however, comes from a limestone-based aquifer, so the pH of irrigated soils tends to rise, particularly since our light sands have very little buffering capacity. Also, nearly all growers use dolomite on these soils, regularly, to bring the pH up to a better level for citrus. Since most of the industry is now on 'Swingle' roots, 5.5-6.0 is considered ideal.

On the east coast (Indian River area) and in far southwest Florida, where most of the newer groves are located, again the "average" soil pH will be acidic; however, there are areas with quite a lot of shell (in the case of the east coast) or limestone bedrock (in the SW) which make specific areas alkaline (up to about 8.1). Often in these areas, it varies wildly every few acres or even less. So pH management becomes a challenge.
Back to top
Millet
Citruholic
Citruholic


Joined: 13 Nov 2005
Posts: 6657
Location: Colorado

Posted: Sat 22 Apr, 2006 2:11 am

Thank you - Millet
Back to top
A.T. Hagan
Moderator
Moderator


Joined: 14 Dec 2005
Posts: 898
Location: Gainesville, Florida, United States, Earth - Sol III

Posted: Mon 24 Apr, 2006 12:01 pm

Malcolm_Manners wrote:
Cleo, like all true genus citrus root systems, would like a higher pH than does Poncirus or its hybrids. Anything in the 6's should be ok, with 6.5 being ideal. On the other hand, Poncirus and its hybrids would prefer the 5.5-6.0 range.
That's what I was looking for. I dosed the Page and Meyer with a bit of limestone this weekend so we'll see if this sweetens their disposition.

Thanks for the information.

.....Alan.
Back to top
Citrus Growers Forum Index du Forum -> In ground citrus
Page 1 of 1
Informations
Qui est en ligne ? Our users have posted a total of 66068 messages
We have 3235 registered members on this websites
Most users ever online was 70 on Tue 30 Oct, 2012 10:12 am

Powered by phpBB © 2001, 2005 phpBB Group