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Michael



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Posted: Tue 17 Apr, 2012 8:21 am

New Cold Hardy Citrus
Is the title of an article in the Winter Issue of Southeastern Palms, the magazine of the South Eastern Palm Society. Authors Keith Endres, Tom McClendon and Ned Rahn.
The varieties described are either new, or newish, but hasen’t been commonly available. Some of them have already been described in Tom McClendons booklet about Hardy Citrus. The authors share their latest experiences with these varieties:
MIC, a complex hybrid created by Dr. John Brown in Texas. Survival temp is around 15F.
Clem Yuz 2-2 (Hardiness Z 7b/8a)
Gou Tou, the bittersweet orange.(Hardiness Z8 )
Procimequat Hybrids. Particularly interesting I find the report on how easily the Procimequat throws off hybrids. Just by siting plants next to each other, Procemequat seems receptive to pollen from other citrus, including Poncirus trifoliata, which has resulted in several hybrid offspring, that seems to be hardy and potentially usefull. For impatient hybridizers it is also usefull that the Procimequat and to some degree its offspring, matures to flowering and fruiting in just a year or slightly more. Procimequat is also the citrus that Don in Oklahoma is or was using for hybridization. He was the discoverer of its special traits for breeding.
NuClem (hardiness solid Zone 8a)
Dragon Lime, a very hardy potential lime substitute. Probably a hybrid between Poncirus trifoliata and mandarin or orange. Is gaining popularity for taste and hardiness.
Changsha x Citrumelo, a potential lime substitute
Yuzu hybrids

If You want to read more, a membership costs $25. The magazine has lots of articles on other topics than palms, in the same issue there’s an interesting article on evergreen oaks.
Check out the sepalms.org website. This Years Citrus Expo Program has now taken form, although it has not yet been published.
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Stan McKenzie
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Posted: Wed 25 Apr, 2012 10:59 pm

The Southeastern Citrus Expo agenda is posted on the Citrus Forum under Citrus Expo 2012. The Palm Society has the info and hopefully will publish it in the next edition that should come out in the summer. Lazz and myself are waiting on some of you European guys to show up at an Expo! Smile

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Millet
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Posted: Wed 25 Apr, 2012 11:21 pm

4 or 5 years ago I was a member of the Southeastern Palms Society, therefore I received their publication. I believe I was the only member from Colorado. At the time the publication was quite small. Perhaps now it has grown to be a larger publication. I'll have to look into it once again. However, palm trees and Colorado really don't mix well. - Millet 271 BO-)
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Laaz
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Posted: Thu 26 Apr, 2012 12:48 am

Yep, I'll offer the first from Europe to attend the expo $100 spending money ! Very Happy

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Stan McKenzie
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Posted: Thu 26 Apr, 2012 9:01 am

OK! Im in for 50 bucks! Lets keep this going and we may actually be able to pay the airfare for one of our European Citruholic friends to fly to Myrtle Beach to attend this years Expo! That is 150.00 Cold Cash money on the line already! Smile

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Hershell
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Posted: Thu 26 Apr, 2012 10:16 pm

I will match your 50 Stan.

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Sylvain
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Posted: Fri 27 Apr, 2012 4:17 am

OK, keep the pile growing. In two years I'm retired. Very Happy
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Millet
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Posted: Fri 27 Apr, 2012 12:15 pm

Gregn from the country of Canada came to the Expo last year, he paid for it himself. - Millet
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Stan McKenzie
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Posted: Fri 27 Apr, 2012 1:17 pm

Millet, That was 2 years ago that Greg came and visited with us at the Expo. Last year, the Expo was in Orlando, Fla and Bob and Verna Duncan from Vancouver, BC came to that one! So, we have had Canadians represented at the last 2 Expo's! Now we are looking for someone from across the pond to step up to the plate! The bribe money has reached $200.00! Do we have any more contributers or do we have any takers on the offer? Smile

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citrange
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Posted: Fri 27 Apr, 2012 2:42 pm

Trouble is that, with all the restrictions on international movement of citrus, it would be like putting food just out of reach of a starving man!
I would be tempted to bring back a few trees packed in with my underwear, but I don't fancy the attentions of some sniffer dog at UK customs!
And, I couldn't show you some of my own Microcitrus hybrids, because US immigration officials would definitely not be very friendly.
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Posted: Fri 27 Apr, 2012 3:04 pm

Yes, but you would get to meet all of your citruholic cousins from across the pond! Laughing

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ivica
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Location: Sisak, Croatia, zone 7b

Posted: Fri 27 Apr, 2012 3:31 pm

What about setting up a virtual communication network there, using webcam(s) and something like Skype (for example) for "conference type comms" so that we can say "Hi" to you all there?
That way, many members (from all around the world) could join to an events in the talk room or even at final party (and sing with Laaz while he plays his guitar).
If you are for it, we have a plenty of time to plan/do that...

BTW: That is not far away from my profession, so I can volunteer as a technical support ...

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Posted: Fri 27 Apr, 2012 6:41 pm

That we can probably do.

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Sludge
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Posted: Sat 28 Apr, 2012 3:41 pm

Michael wrote:
New Cold Hardy Citrus

Procimequat Hybrids. Particularly interesting I find the report on how easily the Procimequat throws off hybrids. Just by siting plants next to each other, Procemequat seems receptive to pollen from other citrus, including Poncirus trifoliata, which has resulted in several hybrid offspring, that seems to be hardy and potentially usefull. For impatient hybridizers it is also usefull that the Procimequat and to some degree its offspring, matures to flowering and fruiting in just a year or slightly more. Procimequat is also the citrus that Don in Oklahoma is or was using for hybridization. He was the discoverer of its special traits for breeding.


This part kinda confuses me. It's been my understanding that procimequat's are triploid, so I don't really see how the can reproduce in the first place. Secondly I thought that they were highly polyembryonic and finally aren't they part key lime?
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Sylvain
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Posted: Sun 29 Apr, 2012 6:35 am

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