ive never been able to start on in water .
So i tried a link sent the link to Joe Real and i bet he laughed at me but did tell me that was His link ..
SO i kinda did what they did i started 9 in dirt and Get this all doing absolutly awesome.
here are pics and here is there little incubator.
http://img68.imageshack.us/img68/5868/dscf0137nv8.jpg
Container
http://img68.imageshack.us/img68/2066/dscf0141jp0.jpg
Now when to graft onto them the roots are huge and some have just roots and Pin points for plants Cool huh OK so im excited.