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dauben Citruholic
Joined: 25 Nov 2006 Posts: 963 Location: Ramona, CA, Zone 9A
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Posted: Wed 26 Jan, 2011 3:01 am |
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Does anyone know how Antonovka Apple does as a rootstock in warm climates? I have several growing and so far it seems pretty vigorous, but often still has leaves until January. My intent is to graft low chill apples onto it.
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turtleman Citrus Guru
Joined: 30 Nov 2008 Posts: 225 Location: Arizona
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Posted: Wed 26 Jan, 2011 11:42 am |
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I don't know why you'd use it as a rootstock but I'd be interested in hearing how it does with low chill types and what types you add to it, and especially how it does in calcareous soils. |
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dauben Citruholic
Joined: 25 Nov 2006 Posts: 963 Location: Ramona, CA, Zone 9A
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Posted: Wed 26 Jan, 2011 12:31 pm |
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turtleman wrote: | I don't know why you'd use it as a rootstock but I'd be interested in hearing how it does with low chill types and what types you add to it, and especially how it does in calcareous soils. |
Hi Turtleman. I'm using it mostly as an experiment. I have several others on M111 along with one or two other experiments on M27 and Budagovsky. For the Antanovka, I was looking for a standard size tree without any dwarfing and I heard that it produces sooner than other standard size rootstocks. I don't know that my soil is all that calcareous. It's a dark soil, but I should check the pH and see if it's alkaline or not. Part of my property with citrus on it has a sandy loam type of soil and on the other side of my drainage, it has a cobbly loam. According to my soils maps, both are considered non-calcic.
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wd40 Citruholic
Joined: 10 Dec 2010 Posts: 105
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Posted: Sun 30 Jan, 2011 11:57 am |
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I am curious. Why this particular apple?
Do keep in mind full size apple trees can be difficult to spray.
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dauben Citruholic
Joined: 25 Nov 2006 Posts: 963 Location: Ramona, CA, Zone 9A
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Posted: Mon 31 Jan, 2011 1:44 am |
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wd40 wrote: | I am curious. Why this particular apple?
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Deep rooted, bears fruit earlier than other standard sizes, vigorous, etc. If I have problems with harvesting fruit or spraying because of the height, I'll either cut it back or cut it down. Now that I have a little property, I have more room to experiment than I used to. Who knows, maybe I'll cut it all of the way back and graft a different apple onto it. I have several different roostocks that I'm playing around with. Most are EMLA 111, which is a fairly good all around rootstock. Now I just need to find one that is gopher resistant. The gophers killed my 11 in 1 multi grafted apple tree. I'm now waging an all out war.
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gdbanks Citruholic
Joined: 08 May 2008 Posts: 251 Location: Jersey Village, TX
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wd40 Citruholic
Joined: 10 Dec 2010 Posts: 105
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dauben Citruholic
Joined: 25 Nov 2006 Posts: 963 Location: Ramona, CA, Zone 9A
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Posted: Tue 01 Feb, 2011 1:08 am |
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I kill my squirrels. I bought a self resetting trap that can catch dozens at a time. The link below is where I bought it from. There's a knockoff that another outfit produces that stole this guy's design and uses an inferior epoxy coated mesh that gets chewn up. I elected not to support the thieves just to save a buck.
http://www.thetrapmaker.com/bfoxtrap.htm
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GT Citruholic
Joined: 11 Jul 2010 Posts: 395 Location: Beaumont, TX (zone 9a)
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Posted: Tue 01 Feb, 2011 1:12 am |
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Yeah, I am fighting possums by "humane means" - a live animal trap. so far, three possums and one cat! The trap is on. |
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dauben Citruholic
Joined: 25 Nov 2006 Posts: 963 Location: Ramona, CA, Zone 9A
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Posted: Tue 01 Feb, 2011 1:26 am |
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GT wrote: | Yeah, I am fighting possums by "humane means" - a live animal trap. so far, three possums and one cat! The trap is on. |
My squirrel trap is humane also, but I then humanely shoot them so that they don't continue their destruction. Their carcases then get used as vulture and coyote food.
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TRI Citruholic
Joined: 13 Jan 2010 Posts: 399 Location: Homestead, FL Zone 10
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Posted: Mon 07 Feb, 2011 6:14 pm |
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I had a possum in my home last year. It got in through an open door and climbed up a closet. I had a hard time getting it out because I was afraid of its teeth. The possums around here do not seem to like citrus very much. |
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GT Citruholic
Joined: 11 Jul 2010 Posts: 395 Location: Beaumont, TX (zone 9a)
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Posted: Mon 07 Feb, 2011 11:56 pm |
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Phillip,
I figured out that it would be easier to give a possum a ride (12 miles to work should be far enough to relocate the creature) than dealing with their dead bodies.
TRI,
Our possums do not bother citrus. They just dig everywhere and then pup at random spots... So do cats! I even buried couple small amuse traps hoping to scare them away by little suddenly tripping things! So far, no "deposits" under the peach tree after tripping a trap. |
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camo_hunter Citruholic
Joined: 10 Mar 2011 Posts: 82 Location: Wayne Co. Georgia Zn8
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Posted: Fri 03 Feb, 2012 12:53 am |
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I was about to buy some of the same rootstock from Raintree. I guess we've got the same idea. |
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