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Posted: Thu 26 Mar, 2009 5:03 pm

I went ahead and bought the Miho and I also took a twig off of a Okitsu Wase. What grafting type do you all recommend for trying to get the Okitsu Wase joined to the the Miho?

I will post pictures later today. I have the twig resting in willow tea so that it does not dry out.
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Posted: Thu 26 Mar, 2009 5:11 pm

If the bark is slipping T-bud it.

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Posted: Thu 26 Mar, 2009 6:18 pm

T-bud looked to be a bit too hard for a newb like myself and the bark was a bit taut. I went through Joes' guide and tried to adapt it. I cut gently into the main trunk and placed the twig into the cut. Is this an acceptable way of grafting or will it change the tree?
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Posted: Thu 26 Mar, 2009 6:18 pm

I agree with Laaz. If your Miho is actively growing the wood should be slipping. - Millet (1,396-)
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Posted: Thu 26 Mar, 2009 6:19 pm

Also should I snip off the leaves?
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Posted: Thu 26 Mar, 2009 6:20 pm

Millet wrote:
I agree with Laaz. If your Miho is actively growing the wood should be slipping. - Millet (1,396-)


You got in there while I was posting. They pruned it pretty heavily.
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Posted: Thu 26 Mar, 2009 6:48 pm

T-budding is about the easiest to do and gets near 100% success rate.

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Posted: Thu 26 Mar, 2009 7:03 pm

What I did was similar, but instead of small bud, I used twig. I also do not have any budding tape and it was suggested I try duct tape, because it weathers and will loosen up. I think what I did was "chip budding." Like I said, I did take a few different ideas and mix them.


Was it ok to graft into the main trunk or will it alter the fruit type? The guide I followed said to be above the graft, but near the soil.
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Posted: Thu 26 Mar, 2009 7:06 pm

Laaz wrote:
T-budding is about the easiest to do and gets near 100% success rate.


And uses the least amount of material, only one bud and just about 4 inch of parafilm tape.
May be too hard and overwhelming to do if it is your first time....
But it is the quickest thing to do when you had enough practice.

Advanced pointers:
T-budding is excellent and my preferred method when the stock is young.
T-budding is unreliable when you bud unto mature tree (ie 10 ft or taller ) , the bud will take but many times, they will not sprout on the mature tree. For that, I switch to bark-grafting. You can T-bud unto a mature tree and increase your chances of sprouting if you do it during the first flush, and on juvenile water sprouts of the mature tree.
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Posted: Fri 27 Mar, 2009 4:15 am

I have been doing cleft or wedge grafts onto a Meyer lemon tree. So far I know several have taken because they have started to grow; the other still waiting but are still green. This has allowed me to put a new variety at the end of several branches. I primarily want the lemons but if I can get other fruit off it as well the better.

Next time you have a twig you may want to try that method.

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Posted: Fri 27 Mar, 2009 12:32 pm

Will grafting to the main trunk alter the type of fruit that the tree produces like top working?
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Posted: Fri 27 Mar, 2009 12:41 pm

> Will grafting to the main trunk alter the type of fruit that the tree produces like top working?
Indeed not. But it will be harder to succeed.
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Posted: Fri 27 Mar, 2009 12:44 pm

Do you think I pull the twig out and cut one of my branches? I only have two real branches, as this tree was heavily pruned. I left two leaves on the donor branch and they are wilting.
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Posted: Fri 27 Mar, 2009 12:57 pm

It is up to you, but myself , I would take it off and make chip buddings on the green branches.
Chip budding is easier to do, you don't have to worry about slipping/not slipping and it takes just like a T budding.
For your cuttings, cut the leaves off and put them in a plastic bag in the vegetable case of your frig. It will let you a long time to study budding and grafting and make your choice. At least 1 month.
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