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plantguy
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Posted: Sat 02 Sep, 2006 10:03 pm

Hi all. I have been thinking about planting an almond tree. I hear that there is a type "all in one" out there that does not need a second to bear nuts. It doesn't grow too big, about 15'. Does anyone reccommend where to buy one or have any 2 cents to put in about almond trees. I have been looking at Stark Bros Nursery so far.- Vinny

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frank_zone5.5
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Posted: Fri 29 Sep, 2006 10:19 am

Hi We bought one ( I will have to find out from my wife where). It might have been stark. Some of the seem to be grafted or hybrid with Peach trees..not sure of the details

Anyway we have one growing and it flowered nothing yet....

let me know what you end up doing
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Posted: Sat 07 Oct, 2006 1:48 am

Hey Frank,
Thanks for the info. I haven't bought anything yet. Still trying to gather info. Was the tree you got from Stark nice?- Vinny

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frank_zone5.5
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Posted: Sat 07 Oct, 2006 11:14 am

Yes I think so,

we have pretty much everything they sell....

Trying persimons and paw paws.............
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Posted: Tue 19 Dec, 2006 1:18 pm

I did go for it and purchased one from Stark Bros. It looks like a nice healthy tree w/ a good root system. I'll report back in the spring when it leafs out. Can't Wait!!!!!

Vinny

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mrtexas
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Posted: Wed 20 Dec, 2006 10:48 pm

Has anyone outside of California actually harvested commercial grade nuts from their almond tree?
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snickles
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Posted: Sun 31 Dec, 2006 3:46 pm

Has anyone outside of California actually harvested commercial grade nuts
from their almond tree?


I think we are still producing darn near 100% of the production Almonds in
the US.

I kept thinking of some older varieties that had Texas names such as Texas
which to me is the old Mission and I think right offhand Nonpareil may have
a Texas origin.

Just for fun I'll include this link below.

A Historical Reference of the Almond

I read in an Aggie Horticulture article, this one below, that Bacterial
leaf spot can be a problem and made the mistake of asking myself
which leaf spot are they referencing? Your climate is ideal for
Alternaria lef spot which is a fungus. Some people call the symptoms
we can see on the leaves from Pseudomonas syringae a leaf spot disease
and then there is form of Xanthomonas arboricola that produces a
leaf spot on a wide variety of the Prunus family which includes Peaches
and Almonds.

Fruit Gardening in Texas

Then I read this article from the Texas Agriculture Extension Service below
which refers to Brown rot (Monilinia) as being a problem with Almonds and
again I asked myself which form are they referencing and are they referring
to the right one, Monilinia fruiticola or Monilinia laxa? The reason is one
form of Brown rot more so than the Hull rot form can cause a gummosis
on the Almond "hull" (actually the husk instead as the husk covers the hull
and the nut resides within the hull also known as the shell). The gummosis
from the Monilinia fungal pathogen can easily be mistaken for what Bacterial
leaf spot (Pseudomonas syringae) does to certain susceptible varieties such
as Thompson, Merced, NePlus, Mission and Carmel to name a few. So, I've
been on a wild goose chase online wondering why areas of Texas cannot
grow a commercial grade quality Almond just from a disease standpoint.
Personally, I don't think an Almond can be grown in Texas organically
unless the term organic has become rather broadened in scope as surely
fungicide sprays will have to be used in order to protect the trees from
fungal diseases and perhaps even some bacterial prevention sprays, may
have to include using fixed Copper mixed along with some tetracycline.

Producing Texas Fruits and Nuts Organically

I've had some fun with all of this looking around wondering the reasons as
to why and figuring out reasons for the why not commercial grade Almonds
cannot be grown in Texas. In the back of my mind I believe it can be done
but selection of key varieties to grow will become essential in choosing those
varieties that are resistant to the prevalent diseases that have affected and
impacted the growing ability of these plants elsewhere.

The blooming period issues can be dealt with in some areas by having
later blooming varieties. The insect problems may be another factor
as what we may have for insects here may not or probably are not the
same as most areas in Texas and perhaps New Mexico will have to
deal with. We have one thing in common with our alkaline soils and
we can deal with that also to either free up the locked up Iron or Zinc
in the soil, through ground and aerial or boom sprays of chelated forms
of these nutrients and with the lowering of the pH of our soils by using
Gypsum and water or even to the extent of flashing a field or irrigating
between the rows with a low pH water.

Jim
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Posted: Mon 01 Jan, 2007 3:10 pm

It is not my intention to pick on anyone. Some of the disease issues
that we have to deal with in Almonds may be caused from the same
pathogen. We can see what we at first may be a Brown rot symptom
and later learn the gumminess was due to the pathogen that causes
Bacterial canker in Almonds. The same basic pathogen can also
cause the leaf spot issues and problems as well. Some Almonds
are known to produce gummy nuts all on their own. That it is more
of a physiological trait or disorder bred into the Almond variety to start
with and not necessarily due to a fungal or bacterial disease. Selecting
out known clean wood for budding and grafting propagation does more
overall good for certain susceptible varieties than continued dormant,
delayed dormant, popcorn and full bloom stage fungicide sprays will be
for Almond varieties that are more prone to produce gummy nuts and
in some cases for Almonds that are more likely to have leaf spot issues
as well.

Jim
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frank_zone5.5
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Posted: Tue 09 Oct, 2007 2:09 pm

Hi
My hardy almond produced several fruit, they were pretty tasty, surrounded by a shell and pulp like a peach
Frank
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Posted: Tue 09 Oct, 2007 4:33 pm

That "pulp" you refer to is called a "hull". Hulls are used as cattle feed and are valuable. A grower told me a couple of weeks ago that high grain and hay prices have driven up the price of hulls to $120/ton. Growers used to have to pay to have almonds hulled but now make more money off of the hulls than the cost of hulling.

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Posted: Mon 29 Oct, 2007 5:17 pm

Interesting

thanks
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Posted: Tue 30 Oct, 2007 4:56 pm

Frank, glad to hear it produced. Mine grew approx 2' this year. No almonds yet but hopefully in the future. About how tall is your tree? Vinny

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Posted: Wed 31 Oct, 2007 9:13 am

6 or so feet tall, btw it got destroyed by jap beatles............................................... It did grow fast the second year. We had 6 or so fruit

Frank
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