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Joined: 23 Dec 2005
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Posted: Fri 23 Dec, 2005 12:53 am

Hello friends,

Last year, my citrus trees barely survived their first winter in north Texas. Over watering in December just about killed my moro orange, and a soap/neem oil mix killed the new growth on everything else. Then, I pulled down the green house after an 85 degree day, only to have a freeze 5 days later. I put plastic over the trees, so they survived, but all the leaves touching the plastic died.

Fortunately, I had just discovered the trees really liked a 30-10-10 fertilizer DW had in the gardening cabinet (Rhododendron food). I consciously decided to pay less attention to the trees, stopped trying to kill bugs with chemicals, and cut watering back to once a week until the heat of summer. Everything recovered.

Over the last month, I've build my second greenhouse. The 'plant' area is about the same size, but this version isn't connected to the house. Last year, the green house had a plastic-enclosed hallway to the house and an open sliding glass door kept the thing at about 50. This was a very bad idea. We spend about $200 extra on heating and the house was chilly all winter.

This year, the 'Nov-April' greenhouse is independent of the main house. Now, it is a 'cold house'. I just want things to stay above freezing. Heat is provided by 6 or 7 strings of 5 watt Christmas lights run through the branches. I've buried the pots to let the ground warm the roots (last year, they were up on stands and the Christmas lights were wrapped around the pots).

The greenhouse seems to stay about 10 degrees above the outside temp, so it stays above freezing until the outside temp drops below 22 degrees. That is about as cold as it gets unless an artic front blows through and drops temps to 5-10 degrees for a day or two. This has already happened once. To keep the plants above freezing, i covered everything with plastic or old sheets. Under cover, the temperature stayed around 50 degrees. The general air temp only dropped to 30.

The greenhouse covering is 4 mil plastic purchased at Home Depot. Last year, I used 6 mil plastic. The 6 mil plastic was too perforated to be used a second time, so it might have been over-kill. Given I spent so much on heat last year, heating by Christmas lights seems a wonderful alternative. They are on a thermostat and only turn on when the temp drops below 50 degrees.

Below is the temperature performance of the greenhouse/cold-house. We are in north Texas and get plenty of sun during the winter. The sun will raise the temp 30 degrees or more above outside temps if the door is kept shut, so even when the outside is 10 degrees (about as cold as it gets), the plants are well above freezing without any extra heating.





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Laaz
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Joined: 12 Nov 2005
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Location: Dorchester County, South Carolina

Posted: Fri 23 Dec, 2005 12:57 am

Hey Mark welcome to the forum & thanks for the photos.
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Posted: Fri 23 Dec, 2005 1:25 am

Ditto to what Laaz said: "Welcome". Photos show some nice looking, happy plants. Clean, functional, protected area. Goes to show that you don't have to spend a fortune to provide a secure, suitable, winter holding/growing area. I like the vertical walls which allow for tall plants near the walls, also gravel or pea gravel floor. Your descripition of what happened to you or can happen parallels some of my earlier points about what should be considered when constructing a greenhouse or shelter. I look forward to more of your photos and postings.
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zzzzz
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Posted: Fri 23 Dec, 2005 2:19 am

Laaz,

Thanks for the welcome!

joencolo,

The goal is to minimize cost and specialty prep. I've been surprised by how much the Christmas lights contribute. When the temp dropped to the low 20s about 2 nights after I got the plastic up, I was prepared to put a space heater inside for the night. The temp was still up in the high 30s, so I decided the trees could handle whatever was going to happen. That night, the low inside was about 31, but no one seemed to care. Outside, it was in the 14 degree range.

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Posted: Sun 05 Mar, 2006 1:21 am

Due to fears about my weak carpentry skills producing a door that lets the cold air in, I installed 'zipper doors'. These have turned out to be exceptionally easy to install, and only drop the temps a few degrees due to air leakage. They are 7' zippers with self-adhesive sides for application on plastic.



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Posted: Sun 05 Mar, 2006 1:36 am

Last weekend, I installed a solar 'vent opener'. The black 'handle' has a wax core. When the temperature gets above 65, the wax starts expanding and pushes out the 'pin' opposite the 'black handle'.

The vent openned about 6 inches today (max interial temp 85 degrees). The outside temp was 73, so there was a 13 degree differential. Without the vent, I was seeing as much as a 30 degree differential.

We still have a high probability of a freeze (until April 15), but the outside temperatures have gotten into the upper 80s. Despite my lack of carpentry confidence, I decided to try to build a hinged vent. I still have serious doubts that the vent will keep out the cold air if we get a 20 degree night, but the trees were going to start dying in 120 degree heat. Last year, I took the greenhouse down about this time of year, and lost my tangerine crop to a late freeze.

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Millet
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Posted: Tue 07 Mar, 2006 11:06 pm

Mark, necessity is the mother of invention. Your an inspiration to all of us with TWO left hands. - Millet
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