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Mark_T
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Posted: Wed 28 Jul, 2010 6:21 pm

I have three prime locations for trees in my yard. I have a young Oak, a Pomegranite and a Texas Mountain Laurel. I'm debating on having these trees removed and Citrus put in their places. Two are small enough to just dig out on my own, the Oak will require some help. Will I have issues planting new trees in the spots the old trees were grown?
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Malcolm_Manners
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Posted: Thu 29 Jul, 2010 1:54 pm

It's often done, often with good results. But you may have some issues to deal with:

1. If you don't grind the stump thoroughly and deeply, it will be physically difficult to put the new tree in exactly the same place.

2. If you do use a stump grinder, you'll have a fluffy mixture of wood chips, soil, and air, that may take a couple years to settle down on the site, and in the mean time, that rotting wood will use a lot of nitrogen, as bacteria compost it. You would therefore likely need to increase the proportion of N in your fertilizer program for the first few years. The tree will tell you that, with less-than-deep-green leaves.

3. I suppose if you can physically pull the trees, rather than cut and grind, you may avoid the above problems.

4. Disease -- in some parts of the country, there may be phytophthora or armillaria infecting the original trees, to which the new tree may be susceptible. But if your original trees are healthy, that will likely not be a problem.

5. It may be wise to have the soil tested, even if you pull up the old trees so the ground-up roots are not a problem, in that the old tree may have removed most of some specific nutrient(s), and would temporarily alter the recommended fertilizer regime for the new tree.
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John Bonzo
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Posted: Thu 29 Jul, 2010 2:39 pm

I have done it before with no problems. I went to great lengths to dig up and remove the old tree's rootball, then I made sure and planted the new tree higher than normal to account for the settling. Though since you are in Arizona, I wouldn't imagine that planting high would be as important. Californians have to worry about Oak Root Fungus.
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gdbanks
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Posted: Thu 29 Jul, 2010 4:00 pm

i have replaced a tree. i did have to move it over a little becuase the stump was not ground down all the way and am currently adding more fertilizer. so i have had problems 1 and 2

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Mark_T
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Posted: Mon 02 Aug, 2010 2:54 am

The Oak may be a problem then. I'm thinking the other spots should be OK. I assume the smaller roots will die quickly?
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Malcolm_Manners
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Posted: Mon 02 Aug, 2010 11:26 am

It depends on the species how fast the smaller roots may rot away, but generally, yes, within a couple years.

The oak may or may not be a problem, depending on if it's infected. Most oaks are not (or we'd not have any oaks left).
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