Everywhere I go, there's always arguments, low blows etc.....I was answered rudely just yesterday on another forum (by a twit in my opinion),Why??

This is the only place where I have never witnessed rude childlike behaviours. Even when opinions on an issue varies. What's the secret here?

Anyways, thank you all for being very civil with each other, and always realizing the point of such a website: To help one and other, and to learn, not to rip each other's heads off with infantile fights. This is still by far the best site of this kind I have found, and I've been looking around, trust me.

Hi Gen, There was a lot of bickering (by only a few people) at ONE OTHER citrus forum. That is why Laaz started this one in Nov. '05. Most of us left those for good. You don't have to look for other citrus forums, when it's most likely your questions will be answered here! In fact, maybe you could invite the "jerks" to come here & let US chew their heads off LOL.
(I bet Laaz didn't like that) I also think some people are getting crabby this time of year. I've seen posts by you there & you really do try to help people. You should send (good people) over here!
Stay warm

Gen
Once and a while you find a Gem like this forum where there are very knowledgeable folks that take a active part in managing it and share that knowledge freely. Managing a forum takes up a lot of time, so let’s hope that they don’t get burnt out.
We don’t say it often but Job well done guys!
Karl

Patty, you are right, I think I may invite poor Debbie over here, she seems very worried about her plants' welfare. The reason I've been looking elsewhere is because I'm looking for growers in a very similar climate with the same indoor conditions I have, trying to see what they do. But I haven't had much luck.

Yes Karpes, you are right, the Admins and Mods are doing a fantastic job here. Keep it up!!

Gen, Millet & I grow in zone 5, although you & I don't have a greenhouse like he does, he's helped me out many times. I think I grow same conditions as you. Yes, please do invite that poor girl over. I've seen many questions there go unanswered over past year.
There's always someone here with good advice & willing to share.

Gen believe me it takes time to keep this civil & keep the spammers out. I delete about 8 - 10 spam accounts every day. I'm glad you like it here. It's people like Patty, Millet, JoeReal, Benny, Gina and most others that help this forum succeed. If it weren't for them I wouldn't have a life. Thanks to all who help & support this forum.

It's also the experts and old timers like Malcolm Manners, Ned, Stan and Bonnie sharing all their experience & knowledge that makes this place a great resource.

This is my favourite forum for the fact that almost all your questions will get an answer and no one make you feel stupid either. Also I am a fellow Canadian like you Ecomtl but I don't really have an answer for your heat problem. The only thing I can think of is to open a window, but I am guessing you have already tried that.

is the most polite of any I visit. Laaz, you must do a great job keeping things tidy....I've never seen even a "testy" converstion!

Gen, I remember you talking of the heat. I assume you are in apt. & heat included. Did you complain to manager? I'd keep them in a room with window opened from the TOP. Instead of raising bottom up, lower top down so plants don't get direct cold air - & heat rises. Also, close the vent there if you can, & close the door. Is it forced air? Radiater? Let me know.
Yes, draught or cold temps can induce blossoming. My problem is that almost all my citrus has blossoms (induced by cold temps last yr I'm sure) & the room is too cold leaving root zone / soil below or at 55F. I may lose all blooms but I just wait & see.
You know, I like your conditions better LOL. 25 -27 C is not bad if you can keep humidity up (hard to do in winter with that heat) & extra lites.
So, if you can't get temps down, raise humidity & light exposure.

Gen, I found the post you are talking about. She (?) is a very rude cocky person..on the "citrus losing fruit & leaves" thread.
She INSISTS that all citrus absolutely need dormancy every yr., & that people should put them in a garage for winter. That they need 40 -50 F weather for 2-3 months or they won't produce fruit & eventually burn out from not resting. She's talking of inground citrus! When ROOT temps get below 55F, the tree stops growing. If root temps are 56 - 85, the tree will grow!
Millet, Maybe you can say here, how long you've been growing citrus in a warm controlled greenhouse, & reasons why she is incorrect.
Gen, you can C&P what he says - leaving OUT his name LOL, & post it on that thread. Just say "this is quote from a friend of mine in Colorado ZONE 5, who's citrus produces all year for (X) years" (Millet IS our friend).
You handled it well Gen, I did not like her sarcasm saying you will go crying back to her in 1-2 yrs from not having fruit!
Stick to your guns!!

I'm going to change the direction of this post to help answer questions towards methods of getting citrus trees to flower, especially when cool temperatures cannot be given. I've read elsewhere, posts asking how to get citrus buds to "break dormancy" so that the dormant "floral buds" will begin to flower. Advice given included to provide the tree with cool temperature stress, drought stress, or light stress, (the latter I never heard of). To begin with, there is no such thing as "floral bud dormancy" in citrus trees, because initially there are no flower buds. All citrus buds are vegetative buds, that will produce new foliage. What cold stress and drought stress accomplishes is to change a foliage bud into a flower bud in a biochemical process called differentiation. Differentiation = to change from one type of organism to another type of organism. In other words, the cold treatment or the drought treatment biochemically changes a bud that would have produced foliage (leaves) into a bud that will now produce flowers. Normally in temperate regions, this is done by the tree experiencing a period of cool weather. However, in many regions of the world there are no periods of cool weather to promote differentiation. In these regions flowering is accomplished by the dry season, where the tree experiences drought stress. Water stress can play a role in flower induction. In the hot and humid lowland tropics, there is little seasonal variation in temperature. In these areas, flowering is usually rather continuous throughout the year. Greater flowering intensity usually occurs when rainfall returns after a period of dry weather. Water stress has been used for more than a century in Mediterranean countries to stimulate flowering in lemons. By withholding water during certain periods, the timing of flowering can be altered so fruit can be harvested at a time of higher prices (this is the case with 'verdelli' lemons), or to just promote flowering. It is important to determine the optimum level of stress at which irrigation should be started after the dry period. Too little stress can promote an inadequate flowering response. Too severe a stress can cause excessive leaf and fruit drop. Moderate water stress is recommended to induce sufficient flowering without excessive fruit drop, if fruit is present on the tree. For trees without fruit, this of course is not a concern. In Sicily, to promote the blooming of Lemon trees, water is withheld until the trees show wilt, then water is once again given and the trees put forth a nice bloom. Water stress can also be accomplished in container trees, by moderately withholding water to lower levels causing a stress to the tree. I have seen, more often than I would like, a few of my citrus trees bloom forth, after I have inadvertently failed to water causing the tree to became wilted. In one case quite wilted. - Millet

Millet:
With your permission I am going to qoute your message above to repudiate the statement of the guy Ecommtl is discussing about in GW forum.
Benny

you know i was just thinking the same thing i have 2 sites where there is no fighting . My banana site and this one . I go to my Pixiebob cat site and BOY wow even i get ticked and open my mouth . thaks Laaz and all for being so kind Tammy