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mrtexas
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Location: 9a Missouri City,TX
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| Posted: Sun 24 Mar, 2013 7:18 pm |
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I finally figured out what half of my tarocco tree is, raspberry tangor, a cross of satsuma with ruby blood orange made by someone in Houston:
It is a loser and never gets sweet. It is not sweet now. I remember now that I had topworked my raspberry tangor to blood orange many years ago. A branch under the graft is now half the tree and this is the first year of fruiting. Oh well. Tree is now 8-10 feet tall. I thought the tree was 100% tarocoo. The tarocco budwood I got from the Texas budwood bureau took a minimum of 5 years to fruit and is very thorny. |
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RyanL
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Location: Orange County, North Carolina. 7B
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| Posted: Mon 25 Mar, 2013 12:08 pm |
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That's too bad, it looks and sounds good. I see a little pigmentation in there too. What if you let them hang into May/June like a Valencia, I wonder is they would they sweeten then? |
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eyeckr
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Location: Virginia Beach, VA (zone 8a)
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| Posted: Mon 25 Mar, 2013 4:14 pm |
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I've had my small potted tree for a number of years and it does produce a very nice looking pigmented fruit. The outside gets a deep orange/red coloring but as Mr Texas stated it does not get sweet. I've left mine on until the end of April or beginning of May but the acid just mellows out a little.
This fruit doesn't necessarily have to be a 'loser'. It could be a useful fruit if you just look at it differently. If you considered it or renamed it a blood sour orange or blood lemon like Rosso Limon everyone would be after it and use it as such. |
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MarcV
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Location: Schoten (Antwerp), Belgium
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| Posted: Mon 25 Mar, 2013 4:38 pm |
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I'm sure I would like the taste!  Doesn't have to be sweet to be good!
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hydrobell
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Location: Houston, Texas
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| Posted: Mon 25 Mar, 2013 5:56 pm |
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Hopefully you haven't been propagating it as Tarocco. I think I got some Tarocco budwood from you (when you gave me the Duncan budwood).
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mrtexas
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Location: 9a Missouri City,TX
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| Posted: Fri 29 Mar, 2013 1:20 am |
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I was able to cut out the two large branches of raspberry tangor today as the flowering on the raspberry tangor branches was heavy and the tarocco branches hadn't really yet begun. This took out about half the tree! |
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mrtexas
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Location: 9a Missouri City,TX
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| Posted: Fri 29 Mar, 2013 1:22 am |
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| hydrobell wrote: | | Hopefully you haven't been propagating it as Tarocco. I think I got some Tarocco budwood from you (when you gave me the Duncan budwood). |
Can you remember which tree it came off of? I have a large branch of tarocco on a multi-blood orange tree near my house and a smaller tarocco only tree(I thought) out in the yard.
I now have budwood for bream tarocco as supposedly better selection growing in a pot. |
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Sugar Land Dave
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Joined: 08 Oct 2012
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Location: Sugar Land, TX Zone 9a
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| Posted: Sat 06 Apr, 2013 2:34 pm |
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| mrtexas wrote: | I finally figured out what half of my tarocco tree is, raspberry tangor, a cross of satsuma with ruby blood orange made by someone in Houston:
It is a loser and never gets sweet. It is not sweet now. I remember now that I had topworked my raspberry tangor to blood orange many years ago. A branch under the graft is now half the tree and this is the first year of fruiting. Oh well. Tree is now 8-10 feet tall. I thought the tree was 100% tarocoo. The tarocco budwood I got from the Texas budwood bureau took a minimum of 5 years to fruit and is very thorny. |
History of the Raspberry Tangor
By John Panzarella
https://sites.google.com/site/johnpanza/historyoftheraspberrytangor
Bill Chapman of League City, Texas, brought Moro Blood Orange pollen to a monoembyronic umatilla flower which is a Satsuma x ruby orange cross. From this flower he grew a fruit, collected the seeds, and grafted a seedling bud to a Poncirus Trifoliata seedling. He gave me a budded seedling around July, 1989, and he asked that I grow the grafted seedling to see what kind of fruit it would produce. After several years I was able to get the grafted seedling to fruit. Lewis Walden tasted the fruit, and he named the cross Raspberry Tangor (RT) since the fruit was red inside and had a slight raspberry favor. Many buds have been taken from the original tree that I have, and the variety has been tested in several locations. The tree produces a fruit, shaped like its mother the Umatilla that ripens in February or March, and it, too, has monoembyronic seeds. Chris Kneupper and JoAnn Trial did an acid and sugar test on the fruit and calculated an acid to sugar ratio. They found that the RT has about 11.6% sugar, but it never loses its acidity of about 2.2% citric acid. When you ratio the sugar to acid, you get about 5.2, and this falls in the category that one finds in mild lemons and grapefruits. 6-11-07
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