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Sven_limoen
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Posted: Fri 06 Apr, 2012 11:01 am

Fellow citrusgrowers,

I was wondering what hardy citrus are available besides Poncirus trifoliata that can easily take on freezing winters?

greets

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Laaz
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Location: Dorchester County, South Carolina

Posted: Fri 06 Apr, 2012 12:08 pm

Citrus Ichangensis and some of it's hybrids are the next in line for hardiness. Most are not very good to eat, but they are hardy. Laughing

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ivica
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Location: Sisak, Croatia, zone 7b

Posted: Fri 06 Apr, 2012 3:31 pm

Short after-winter report from my place:

Looking hopelessly bad:
Citrus ichangensis
Ichang lemons
Morton citrange (still hoping for a bud around graft line)

I have/had a lot of Ichang lemon seedlings spread arround under various levels of protection. Is anyone survived is still early to say.

Troyer citrange (1.7m tall) have a dieback to about 70 cm above ground.

Rusk citranges defoliated, not much of dieback, most should survive.
Citrumelo seedlings looks the best among all mentioned varieties (although even those have a frost bite low on the trunk).

Note: Morton and Troyer citrange are grafted onto P. trifoliata rootstock,
others are seedlings of various age. None of them mature tree.

Minimal temp this winter was -20 C.

Main result - so far: Only P. trifoliata (Flying Dragon included) can survive local winters w/o problems.

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Laaz
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Posted: Fri 06 Apr, 2012 4:37 pm

Shocked -4F, I'm surprised any of them survived.

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ivica
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Posted: Fri 06 Apr, 2012 5:09 pm

Laaz wrote:
Shocked -4F, I'm surprised any of them survived.


When we got snow - I took shovel...
Small trees fully (or at least partially) covered by snow can survive cold events. I have saved rosemary bushes and laurel tree that way.
That is also how I saved Troyers graft line 2 years ago (-16 C).

The most interesting to me is that Troyer has less percentage of damage this winter than it had under -16 C (3.2 F) two years ago.
That suggests a role of good established root system!
Freshly planted tree, say last spring, has less chance than a tree planted 2 years ago... It's not about size of a tree, it's about roots.

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Sylvain
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Location: Bergerac, France.

Posted: Mon 09 Apr, 2012 5:37 pm

Here we had -15°C. Nearly everything died. Navel orange, satsumas, ponkan, morton, ichang lemon, C. Ichangensis etc.
Only survived PTs, FDs, Prague hybrids, 5 Stars, Yuzus and Ichanquats.
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JackLord
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Posted: Fri 13 Apr, 2012 5:29 pm

I have 4 Citrumelos and 1 Thomasville planted at various points in my yard. They all came through with flying colors after this admittedly mild winter. I did not protect them at all.

Now if they would only flower. Sad
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markbcrich



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Location: huntersville, nc

Posted: Sun 22 Apr, 2012 1:57 pm

I live in zone 8a. I have Ichang Lemon, Dunstan Citrumelo, Thomasville Citrangequat and Rusk Citrange in ground. All unprotected with marginal to no damage each winter. The Ichang Lemon is now 5 years old and about 15 feet tall.
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frank_zone5.5
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Posted: Sun 22 Apr, 2012 5:44 pm

JackLord wrote:
I have 4 Citrumelos and 1 Thomasville planted at various points in my yard. They all came through with flying colors after this admittedly mild winter. I did not protect them at all.

Now if they would only flower. Sad


how does your thomasville do, I still have ripe fruit on mine, I think I got around 100 fruits last year and the tree is 3-4 feet tall
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danero2004
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Posted: Sun 22 Apr, 2012 5:53 pm

-28 -30 my region

Poncirus had some frosted twigs and it is ok now
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franckm
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Posted: Mon 23 Apr, 2012 12:31 pm

Hello,

I live in southern France (Z8a). My yard experienced a decennial winter :
10 frost days, some nights down 10F (-12c), snow on earth & plants during this freezing phase. I gave absolutely no protection to my citrus.

Poncirus trifoliata intact
Citrus inchangensis intact
Citrangequat thomasville Some leaves burnt but pretty nice result
Citrus Junos (yuzu) total defoliation but is ok, shoots from every stems now
Citrus X US119 total defoliation but is ok, also buds from every stems now
Satsuma 'Hashimo' Almost dead, die back 40cm above the grown, Rolling Eyes
Australian sour orange (don't know if you've heard about it) dead

to continue..
Franck Cool

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JackLord
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Posted: Mon 23 Apr, 2012 3:30 pm

frank_zone5.5 wrote:
JackLord wrote:
I have 4 Citrumelos and 1 Thomasville planted at various points in my yard. They all came through with flying colors after this admittedly mild winter. I did not protect them at all.

Now if they would only flower. Sad


how does your thomasville do, I still have ripe fruit on mine, I think I got around 100 fruits last year and the tree is 3-4 feet tall


It is just hitting its first year mark for being in the ground.
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Sanguinello
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Posted: Sat 02 Jun, 2012 3:22 pm

In europe was an extrme winter like only all 20 years or even more rare.

Having Citrus trees for 20 years would not be so bad.

Yuzu is a great candidate for that and has lovely fruits.
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