Citrus Growers Forum

David. · Posted: Thu 07 Jan, 2010 6:05 pm

Like combination oranges, peaches, avocados?

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JoeReal · Posted: Thu 07 Jan, 2010 9:19 pm

Maybe 50 years more when we can master individual molecular and cellular interactions.

Apples, pears, hawthorns, quinces, loquats have been done by me. Plums, prunes, sweet cherries, sour cherries, bush cherries, apricots, myrobalans, peaches, almond, pluots, plumcots, nectaplums, apriums, capulins and other prunus have I joined.

Between pomes and stones and roses might be more possible someday but have not found suitable interstems yet.

Citruses and avocados and mangoes maybe several decades more.

Tomatoes potatoes and eggplant all in one plant for sale in the Phillipines as grafted seedlings.

These are just a few interspecific grafts that I have encountered.

If we follow citrus naming standard my tree has 24 different species while current world record graft has only 6 species.

citrusgalore · Posted: Fri 08 Jan, 2010 1:32 am

Hummmmm,

That's funny, for some reason I thought he meant a combination mango tree. Oh well....

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David. · Posted: Fri 08 Jan, 2010 3:31 am

I was wondering if there was inter stem available to propragate different species on the mango for it's large and vigorous growth. As to my knowledge different variety mango is possible.

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JoeReal · Posted: Fri 08 Jan, 2010 2:16 pm

Easiest: graft between clones
then same cultivars
then same species
then same genus
then same family.... And so forth...

I have managed to graft different genera of same family.

By this logic, grafting between kingdoms should be truly improbable and yet almost anyone have been doing it...
You can graft from fungi kingdom, animal kingdom and plant kingdom and enjoy your grafts right away. Mushrooms, pork, onions grafted unto bamboos. Enjoy your Shish kabobs!

David. · Posted: Fri 08 Jan, 2010 5:27 pm

http://www.ikisan.com/links/ap_mangoPropagation.shtml
found some very interesting info on mangos here

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JoeReal · Posted: Fri 08 Jan, 2010 5:48 pm

The most number of mango cultivars grafted together is about 300, and the mango tree is in India, but the 300 cultivars are all one species.

The most number of uniquely different (DNA recombination) seedlings and cultivars grafted together was done by Luther Burbank, more than 1,000 types of cherry seedlings together in one tree, but still just two to three distinct species.

jm · Posted: Sat 09 Jan, 2010 7:29 am

JoeReal wrote:

Plums, prunes, sweet cherries, sour cherries, bush cherries, apricots, myrobalans, peaches, almond, pluots, plumcots, nectaplums, apriums, capulins and other prunus have I joined.

You have a rootstock miraculous. I saw only one tree with cherry, apricot and plum grafted on it in a nursery. I think that rootstock was a plum. All my tests grafting cherry on plum have always failed. What's your secret ?

To graft apple, pear, quince ... on the same tree, you use crataegus mexicana ?

JoeReal · Posted: Sun 10 Jan, 2010 12:26 am

jm wrote:

JoeReal wrote:

Plums, prunes, sweet cherries, sour cherries, bush cherries, apricots, myrobalans, peaches, almond, pluots, plumcots, nectaplums, apriums, capulins and other prunus have I joined.

You have a rootstock miraculous. I saw only one tree with cherry, apricot and plum grafted on it in a nursery. I think that rootstock was a plum. All my tests grafting cherry on plum have always failed. What's your secret ?

To graft apple, pear, quince ... on the same tree, you use crataegus mexicana ?

The secret to all of these interspecific grafts is using other rootstocks or cultivars as interstock. For example winter banana apples or quince are graft compatible with many Malus and Pyrus species or cultivars. You first use these interstocks and then graft unto the interstocks. Another example is the krymsk 1 & krymsk 5. Though you can easily graft plums apricots peaches and nectarines unto k1 you cannot graft a cherry unto it. But you can graft k5 unto k1 and then next season graft your cherry unto the grafted k5.

If someone had too much time one day perhaps a chain of different rootstocks would ultimately make it possible to combine an apple and a peach unto one tree because they belong to the same rose family.

mikeyinfla · Posted: Sat 01 May, 2010 10:48 am

i have heard of people grafting mangoes onto cahsew rootstock never did hear how succesful it was. so basically you are talking about grafting mangoes with other related species like cashew pistacio and possible birea or are you talking about just different varieties of mangoes? most of the few people i know that have tried with mango / mango ended up cutting most of the grafts off because they had to trim one or more of the varieties allot to keep them from overpowering the slower growing ones meaning no fruit on the trimed ones or very little. i think one person has two varieties grafted to one plant but have not talked to him in some time about it. if i was not allergic to them and still liked mangoes i would deffinately have tried it by now. i even gave away a cashew plant i had because they are close enough related to possibly cause problems i got lucky and never had to trim the cashew while i had it or would have found out the hard way. if you do decide to try it i would try with varieties that are close to the same growth habit. i would not try an ice cream than say a juliet maybe a juliet and a haden they are fairly close to the same growth habit from the little i have seen of them. i know now with all the new varieties that haden has about the same respect as a terpantine mango but haden used to be my favorite

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