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pagnr
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Posted: Sun 23 Jan, 2011 12:56 am

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This 45cm tall P.trifoliata has flowered and fruited 2 years in a row, after being noticed as an early flowering seedling amongst rootstock production seedlings. It is also fairly spindly, and probably would have been discarded as too thin for rootstock use.
If it turns out to be a consistent fruiter, it may defy the normal rules of Citrus development to reach flowering ?
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ivica
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Posted: Sun 23 Jan, 2011 3:06 am

Interesting.
Unusual flower too.

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Lemandarangequatelo
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Posted: Sun 23 Jan, 2011 9:00 am

Very interesting indeed! How old was the seedling when it first flowered and produced fruit?
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Posted: Sun 23 Jan, 2011 12:43 pm



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pagnr
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Posted: Sun 23 Jan, 2011 5:27 pm

Poncirus seedling first flowered between 2 and 3 years old. Looking at the foliage the plant doesn't seem strongly off type, compared to the rest of the rootstock seedlings, but it was obviously skinny and shorter than average. Probably the flower stood out as unusual and it seemed worth keeping as an early flowerer.
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ilyaC
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Posted: Sun 23 Jan, 2011 5:50 pm

Very interesting. Is it giving polyembryonic seedlings?

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ivica
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Posted: Sun 23 Jan, 2011 5:56 pm

pagnr wrote:
...Looking at the foliage the plant doesn't seem strongly off type, compared to the rest of the rootstock seedlings...

I saw no difference between seedlings during first 5 years. Unusual characteristics came later in this case: "When everything fits (poncirus)"
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Ned
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Posted: Mon 24 Jan, 2011 12:38 pm

I have had a seedling poncirus for about 5 or 6 years that was planted one spring and fruited the following spring. It produces seedlings that do the same. The early fruiting tends to make it less desirable as a rootstock, but I have thought that it may make it useful in a breeding program.

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citrange
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Posted: Mon 24 Jan, 2011 8:28 pm

Ned,
Are you sure the seedlings really reliably flower at one or two years old?
I have had a few early flowering Poncirus seedlings, and various research papers I have read recognise that these occur, but they all say that next generation seedlings revert to normal maturity time.
If you really do have consistent early maturity, then this does need using in some hybrid attempts. I'd love to have early flowering citranges etc.
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