He is just getting started, has only a few with the rust mites. I pulled one and placed it in a zip lok bag for show and tell. I imagine he will have several hundred pounds to sell this year. He is also getting into growing strawberries hydroponticaly. He will really have a nice operation. Last season he had great blackberries. The strawberries are in plastic pots, 5 pots to the pole. Loooks like he really has a nice growing mixture. Any one in the Golden area should go out and look at the operation. I think in time he will grow a limited number of citrus on Flying dragon understock..