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elsedgwick
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Posted: Mon 06 Aug, 2012 10:12 pm

Two surveys:
Best early satsuma (as a season extender to compliment Owari, Kimborough, and Brown's Select)?
Sanbokan v ujukitsu?
Thanks for your input.
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Darkman
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Posted: Mon 06 Aug, 2012 11:19 pm

Satsuma Xie Shan

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Posted: Mon 06 Aug, 2012 11:45 pm

Many many people, certainly myself included, will agree with Darkman that Xie Shan (pronounced SHE Shan) is one of the very best tasting citrus fruits you could possibly select - it is a really great satsuma. However, Xie Shan would not be a season extender, as it is a very early maturing variety. - Millet (164 BO-)
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Posted: Tue 07 Aug, 2012 12:18 am

Sweet lemons
I've grown just about all of them. I'm not impressed.

Ujukitsu
Looks like a minneola but is yellow. Early. Good but not great. I like minneola better

Sulcata or Samboken
This is more like a grapefruit than anything. It is later than ujukitsu like after Christmas

Pomona acidless lemon
Tasteless like all acidless citrus fruit, insipid and tasteless

New Zealand Lemonade
I have this growing in a pot and will have fruit this year. I have my fingers crossed.
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elsedgwick
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Posted: Tue 07 Aug, 2012 12:43 am

Xie shan sounds perfect, as I am trying to extend the season backwards. *smiling the smile of someone about to ask the question of a parvenu* Am I right in thinking that Owari and Kimborough are both late season, and Brown's is mid-season?
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RyanL
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Posted: Tue 07 Aug, 2012 12:09 pm

elsedgwick wrote:
Xie shan sounds perfect, as I am trying to extend the season backwards. *smiling the smile of someone about to ask the question of a parvenu* Am I right in thinking that Owari and Kimborough are both late season, and Brown's is mid-season?


If you are not planning on ordering budwood let us know if you are able to find Xie Shan. Its been on my "must have" list for some time Very Happy
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Darkman
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Posted: Tue 07 Aug, 2012 10:03 pm

elsedgwick wrote:
Xie shan sounds perfect, as I am trying to extend the season backwards. *smiling the smile of someone about to ask the question of a parvenu* Am I right in thinking that Owari and Kimborough are both late season, and Brown's is mid-season?


That's the direction I thought you were going (backwards). Smile

From my research Owari (Early Nov – Mid Jan) and Kimbrough (Sept– Oct ). I did not research Brown Select. Xie Shan is (Mid Sep – Nov) so it is in the middle of those two. However I'm only repeating what I read. Mine aren't old enough to have any track record. I do have all three of these and hopefully I'll know more as they get some age on them.

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Laaz
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Posted: Tue 07 Aug, 2012 10:14 pm

I have yet to find a satsuma that is any good past the middle of Nov. They become large & puffy. Most are at their best before they are fully colored.

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franckm
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Posted: Sat 11 Aug, 2012 7:55 am

How early could we expect for Xie Shan ? (Some have experienced it in eastern US ?)

I do have Hashimoto satsuma, a so called early citrus, but it froze next winter almost to the ground . So no flowers nor fruits round there for now.. Crying or Very sad

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Darkman
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Posted: Sat 11 Aug, 2012 12:56 pm

I have a limited amount of fruit hanging on four Xie Shan trees. Maybe next year I could give a better qualified answer.

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Laaz
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Posted: Sat 11 Aug, 2012 1:36 pm

LA Early & Early St Anne are very good & both are ripe around the end of Sept.

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Posted: Sat 11 Aug, 2012 7:47 pm

I cannot find Xie Shan in europe ...

Anybody knows a resource ?
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buddinman
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Posted: Sun 19 Aug, 2012 12:45 pm

Just got back from South Louisiana, visited Star farm, The Early ST Ann is preferred over the LA early.
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