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valenciaguy
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Posted: Wed 04 Oct, 2006 10:50 pm

Does any one Know when it is the best time to graft or bud onto a decidous tree that loses it leaves, like when does the bark slip the best. Is it spring, early summer or fall? I am wondering because 1 i want to graft fruit trees like peaches and 2 i am trying to graft different colours of rose a sharon.
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Skeeter
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Posted: Wed 04 Oct, 2006 11:05 pm

For pecans it is late summer when bark slips best for budding. However, I had my best success with pecans when I cut winter wood in Jan. and stored them in the refrigerator (waxed ends and stored in a plastic bag with moist sawdust).

I then used the 4-flap bannana graft (see tutorial) as soon as the rootstock buds began to break in the spring. It should work with any deciduous trees. -- The stored winter wood is a big advantage since it will not demand much from the root for a week or more.

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Patty_in_wisc
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Posted: Thu 05 Oct, 2006 3:23 am

Hey Skeet, it's nice to know someone tried the 4 flap banana graft that I posted in tutorials! I have yet to try it...it LOOKS easy LOL. Did they take well?
I think the low success rate of my T budding is cuz the bark wasn't slipping. How do people like JoeReal graft & Tbud all yr long? Rolling Eyes

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Posted: Thu 05 Oct, 2006 3:30 pm

I think I had about 80% success rate with pecans-- The tutorial you posted Patty would have made it easier my first time-- all I had were written instructions. I think it works best for beginners since there is so much potential for the cambiums to make contact.

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valenciaguy
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Posted: Thu 05 Oct, 2006 7:55 pm

Well patty thanks for the link of the demo of the graft before i just briefly went through it and didn't think any thing of it know i am going to read it word for word and try it on one of my graft probably next year now. skeeter do you know the slipping times of other decid. or maybe a place i can find the slipping times.
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Skeeter
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Posted: Thu 05 Oct, 2006 9:37 pm

I do not know much about other trees, but there are several on this forum that have grafted a wide variety of trees. JoeReal and buddingman are probably the most likely to know. Send them a PM if they do not see this and reply soon.

I am pretty sure that the winter wood trick will help on your deciduous trees if you use the 4 flap bannana graft next spring-- that is if you have access to grafting stock yourself. If you need to order it-- then you might try to get it in the middle of winter--when it arrives coat the cut ends in melted wax and store the scions in a ziplock bag with moist sawdust in the refrigerator.
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Posted: Thu 05 Oct, 2006 9:44 pm

Valencia-- you made me curious so I did a search and found this:

http://www.newton.dep.anl.gov/natbltn/700-799/nb750.htm

It says late summer --just like pecans.

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Posted: Thu 05 Oct, 2006 9:47 pm

Valencia-- you made me curious so I did a search and found this:

http://www.newton.dep.anl.gov/natbltn/700-799/nb750.htm

It says late summer --just like pecans.


Here is another link from GA-- it says Aug - Sept for budding.

http://pubs.caes.uga.edu/caespubs/pubcd/B818.htm#Budwood

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valenciaguy
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Posted: Thu 05 Oct, 2006 11:35 pm

Thanks checked it out looks good i will hopfully be trying peaches next summer.
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