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Cow, chicken, or horse manure?
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Millet Citruholic
Joined: 13 Nov 2005 Posts: 6657 Location: Colorado
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Posted: Fri 02 Jan, 2009 6:45 pm |
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I guess you got me there, Sylvain. Although, I cook the eggs. - Millet |
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JoeReal Site Admin
Joined: 16 Nov 2005 Posts: 4726 Location: Davis, California
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Posted: Fri 02 Jan, 2009 8:38 pm |
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Chicken manure would be great, then horse manure and lastly the cow manure. I would mix all available manure and compost them. With such a large area of backyard, you can compost these prime organic fertilizer.
After composting, you then oxidatively ferment these manure, ie, load up 50 lbs of composted manure unto a 55-gallon oil drum container, then aerate with cheap aerators for a day or two. After that, filter and you would have produced your own composted tea mix for your plants. You can feed through your drip lines, or spray foliarly and regularly up to a couple of weeks before you harvest. when done properly, this would eliminate a lot of fungal and bacterial diseases of plants, including phytophthora and other root diseases. |
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Millet Citruholic
Joined: 13 Nov 2005 Posts: 6657 Location: Colorado
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Posted: Fri 02 Jan, 2009 8:49 pm |
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Todays confined cattle live in their own excrement, which is the carrier of the deadly E. coli strain 0157:H7. Caked-on manure will migrate to edible portions during dehiding, thanks to line speeds of 390 animals per hour and laborers who are not always properly skilled. Ground beef today is made up of mixtures of hundreds or even thousands of animals. The grinding process brings surface pathogens to patty interiors that may, down the road, not be cooked adequately. A university study found that 0157:H7 may also be harbored in the interior of a solid piece of meat.
Manure = crap = feces = excrement = s**t = not in my garden.
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Tom Citruholic
Joined: 11 Nov 2008 Posts: 258 Location: Alabama [Central]
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Posted: Fri 02 Jan, 2009 11:45 pm |
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Millet, I agree with you. When we had about 200 brood cows on our family farm , all the experts wanted us to feed chicken litter [crap] mixed with corn to the cows. The plan was to mix enough corn to trick them into eating the stuff then cut back on the corn b/c the chicken litter was so cheap. I flat out refused to do it not matter what conventional feed costs. I couldn't stand the idea! Still don't and will not ever do it... _________________ Tom in central Alabama |
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Millet Citruholic
Joined: 13 Nov 2005 Posts: 6657 Location: Colorado
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Posted: Sat 03 Jan, 2009 3:11 am |
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Tom, much the same program is carried out here in Colorado' feed lots. When feed lot cattle eat, about 35 - 40 percent of the feed is not fully digested by the cow, therefore the animal's excrement still retains that undigested protein. Because the animal's manure still contains 40 percent of the protein that was not fully digested, it is common practice in most all feed lots to re-feed the animals own feces back to him blended with some feed so the cow will eat it. This is done, of course, because feeding the cow his own excrement greatly lowers the feed lot's cost. Many city people don't know this when they eat beaf. I wonder what the nitrogen content of twice feed manure is? Here, on the farm to get rid of any manure, we just dump it out in the wheat fields far from the house and disk it under. - Millet |
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softmentor
Joined: 25 Aug 2008 Posts: 22 Location: Indio CA
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Posted: Fri 30 Oct, 2009 9:43 am |
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Joe, all that mixing is way to much work. Just apply to the ground and either work it in or cover with a vegetative mulch.
One more note about horse manure. It tends to tighten soil so it's great for a sandy soil but not good for a tight, or clay, soil. If you have a heavy soil, use one of the others. _________________ Sunset zone 13. Mulch and the right amount of water fixes almost everything. Nothin's sweeter that a drink from your own well. |
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Sanguinello Gest
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Posted: Sun 15 Jul, 2012 11:18 am |
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Only cow manure CAN be used fresh, but I would not.
Cow manure should be composted half a year, horse manure even 4 years ... |
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Westwood Citruholic
Joined: 31 Jan 2006 Posts: 454 Location: Oregon
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Posted: Mon 01 Apr, 2013 8:01 am |
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I was thinking about getting Rabbits
NUTRIENT COMPOSITION OF COMMON MATERIALS
Material Nitrogen % Phosphorus % Potassium % Comments
Chicken Manure (fresh) 1.6 1.5 0.9 Compost, or delay planting at least 3 wks.
Cow Manure (fresh) 0.3 0.2 0.1 Compost, or delay planting at least 3 wks.
Horse Manure (fresh) 0.7 0.3 0.6 Compost, or delay planting at least 3 wks.
Pig Manure (fresh) 0.5 0.3 0.5 Compost, or delay planting at least 3 wks.
Rabbit Manure (fresh) 2.4 1.4 0.6 Compost, or delay planting at least 3 wks.
Sheep Manure (fresh) 0.7 0.3 0.9 Compost, or delay planting at least 3 wks.
Worm Castings 0.5 0.5 0.3 High in organic matter. Already Composted _________________ If it breaths and loves life Im a Friend..
If it Breaths and Hurts life .. thats the end.. |
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SeaHorse_Fanatic Citruholic
Joined: 19 Sep 2011 Posts: 85 Location: Burnaby, BC Zone 8b/9b
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Posted: Tue 14 May, 2013 3:55 am |
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I got a pair of "fixed" lop eared rabbits as pets for my daughters and as organic fertilizer producers for my garden/greenhouse/citrus tree collection.
Also, we went through the freezer this spring and pulled out all the freezer-burned fish and buried small pieces in the large pots of the citrus trees, some tomato plants and even the blueberry bush inside my greenhouse. The fish works great. It's not even mid-May and my tomato plants are about 3-3.5' tall, I have lots of new growth on the citrus trees and blueberries that are already almost full sized (but still green).
We have raccoons and skunks so burying fish in the planter boxes only results in them digging up a stinky snack.
I built a new garden box (8' x 3' x 3') and buried several large pieces of fish 2' down before filling up with peat moss, black earth and Sea Soil (composted fish waste and organic material). Everything is growing like nuts and we didn't have to throw away the "bad" fish, so win-win situation.
My friend Tom (Tiny Tom's Tangerine Farm) in Delta, BC uses chicken manure.
Anthony _________________ Learning is a life-long process. Stop learning at your own peril. |
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