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JoeReal
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Posted: Fri 14 Apr, 2006 2:54 pm

Most of my grafted persimmons last year have flower buds:
Korean K-4 hybrid
Zengi Maru
Orange County Maru
Izu
Geneva Long

And my old ones are in bloom as well:
Fuyu
Hana Fuyu (Giant Fuyu)
Coffee Cake.

Those not in bloom:
Rosseyenka

This year I have bark grafted the following and are showing signs of take:
Great Wall
Hokaido
Honan Red
Keener
Jiro
Matsumoto
Sharon
Suruga
California Maru
Chenting
Saijo
Yates
Hayakume
IchikikeiJiro
Chocolate
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Posted: Fri 14 Apr, 2006 3:26 pm

Will post pics within 2 weeks. It's going to rain again!
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bencelest
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Posted: Fri 14 Apr, 2006 6:32 pm

Joe:
I can't believe there are so many kinds of persimmons. Really I do.
The only that sells on ALL stores are Fuyo and Hachiya.
Unbelievable.
Benny
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Posted: Fri 14 Apr, 2006 7:38 pm

Hey Joe I bought 3 plants off ebay and well they came to me as dried sticks dried roots and the seller says there Dormant ...

There well Still dried up should i wait or should i ask for another plant ?Tammy


Hey im not sure but i think i need more acerage for my hobbies ..

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Posted: Fri 14 Apr, 2006 7:40 pm

Benny, if I find more varieties at CRFG exchange next year, they will be added for sure. Right now, it seems that I have more varieties than what can be found during the exchange. Too bad, I only have an effective size of three persimmon trees, so cannot bring a lot of scionwood for everyone else but will once in a while give away to close friends like Benny who would request them personally during the dormant season. I will evaluate each variety and tell you which ones are really good, but that will take 2-3 years before I can taste the fruits.
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Posted: Fri 14 Apr, 2006 7:42 pm

It takes a while before you can learn to distinguish the subtle differences in flavor and textures of various persimmon cultivars aside from astringency factor.
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Posted: Fri 14 Apr, 2006 8:05 pm

"Rosseyenka" is blooming this year.

I eat "Tanenashi" from an established tree.

"Ruby" (American persimmon) gives me fruit once in a while.

I'm looking for Honan Red and Giombo, without success.
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Posted: Fri 14 Apr, 2006 8:20 pm

tanenashi means "without seeds".

Is it legal to send persimmon scionwood to your state?
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Posted: Fri 14 Apr, 2006 9:40 pm

what would be a good persimmon for zone 6? my mom has some wild persimmons that would make good root stock.. the Persimmons on her trees are very small and very seedy..
Gina *BabyBlue*
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Posted: Fri 14 Apr, 2006 9:45 pm

those are native american persimmons. Perhaps you can graft them with:

Shin Na Da - D. kaki Persimmon.Large, flattened, ribbed yellowish orange fruit. Ripens mid-September. When tree ripens at picking time fruit will be non-astringent on the tree, very firm and ready to eat. Tree has vigorous upright growth habits and will bear fruit in 3 to 5 years. Fruit is 3 inches across and 1.5 to 2 inches thick. Cold hardy Zone 6.

There are other interesting cold hardy types for zone 6. see this link:
http://www.nuttrees.net/persimmon.html
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Posted: Sat 15 Apr, 2006 2:03 am

Thanks Joe!!! I'll see if Mom would like to let me try it out..
Gina *BabyBlue*
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Posted: Sat 15 Apr, 2006 5:05 pm

Actually, I don't know if I ever tasted a persimmon. They do not sell them in the stores here. I'll have to contact the CRFG for some budwood, as their seed bank owes me on a check I sent them for some "rare" seed, but the seed bank went under for 3 or 4 months, and I never received the seed, or my check back. On second thought, it is a LOT FASTER and easier just to purchase a mature tree.- Millet
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Posted: Sat 15 Apr, 2006 8:46 pm

JoeReal wrote:
tanenashi means "without seeds".

Is it legal to send persimmon scionwood to your state?

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Yes. Few plants are prohibited here (some noxious weeds mostly, most aquatic). No woody plants are prohibited (North Carolina prohibits some bushfruits because of white pine diseases, but not here). If commercial, they want a nursery tag: I have no idea about personal exchanges.
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Posted: Sat 15 Apr, 2006 11:04 pm

Info page for ya, If you do deside to try your hand at it Millet..
California Rare Fruit Growers, Inc.
PERSIMMON Fruit Facts..
http://www.crfg.org/pubs/ff/persimmon.html
If you would like seeds let me know.. I'll get ya bunch.. they would make good graft root stock.. what i've been reading the native persimmon makes excelent root stock.. Might even figure out a way to ship fruit and all to ya.. would have to be Oct or Nov if you would like to try some fruit..
thought of offering seedlings *there is a nice large patch of them by the second pond* but read that they don't transplant well due to the deep tap root..
Gina *BabyBlue*
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Posted: Sun 16 Apr, 2006 1:04 am

Millet:
If I will remember or better yet, come November/December I can send you the tastiest and juiciest Fuyo persimons there is. I have lots of them I don't know what to do with.
Benny
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