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CampoCalle
Joined: 26 Sep 2012 Posts: 22 Location: West Redding, California
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Posted: Tue 12 Mar, 2013 1:29 am |
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Hi, when we purchased our property last year I noticed a sad little citrus tree that had managed to set a few fruit. Thinking they were mandarins and not yet noticing the trifoliate leaves I bit into a sour fruit and promptly spit it out. I believe that this must be some sort of citrange that overgrew the scion. There are several named varieties of citrange out there. Does anyone have a guess as to what I have?
It is thorny:
Fruit on tree:
Leaf on tree:
Cut fruit and leaf:
I have grown out seedlings from two of this year's fruit. Some look very healthy, green, and vigorous, a few look like albinos or maybe even variegated. I wonder if they will just die or turn green at some point, time will tell:
I plan to use my homegrown seedlings as my main rootstocks for most of the future citrus orchard, so it would be nice to know what I have. If not, at least this little tree is a real survivor.
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mrtexas Citruholic
Joined: 02 Dec 2005 Posts: 1029 Location: 9a Missouri City,TX
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Posted: Tue 12 Mar, 2013 10:17 pm |
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Fruit size makes me think citrange. Swingle fruit are large navel to grapefruit sized. |
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Laaz Site Owner
Joined: 12 Nov 2005 Posts: 5642 Location: Dorchester County, South Carolina
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Posted: Tue 12 Mar, 2013 10:33 pm |
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Looks very close to Rusk in shape & size. _________________ Wal-Mart a great place to buy cheap plastic crap ! http://walmartwatch.com/ ...
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CampoCalle
Joined: 26 Sep 2012 Posts: 22 Location: West Redding, California
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Posted: Tue 12 Mar, 2013 10:44 pm |
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The fruits are very uniform in size and shape - they are all quite round (no neck) and the size of a small mandarin. In any event I am happy to have a rootstock seed source. I am definitely keeping this tree! |
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Hershell Moderator
Joined: 23 Nov 2009 Posts: 340 Location: Ga. zone 8
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Posted: Tue 12 Mar, 2013 11:30 pm |
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Swingle is yellow, the few seed and small orange fruit look like Rusk. IMHO _________________ Hershell
Nothing in the world takes the place of growing citrus. |
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citrange Site Admin
Joined: 24 Nov 2005 Posts: 589 Location: UK - 15 miles west of London
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hoosierquilt Site Admin
Joined: 25 Oct 2010 Posts: 970 Location: Vista, California USA
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Posted: Thu 21 Mar, 2013 10:42 pm |
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I will have to agree with Citrange on this. Most semi-dwarf citrus trees here in California, especially those over 5 to 10 years old are on Troyer/Swingle. We are now seeing a bit of a swing over to C35 for a few reasons, but I would guess Campo has got Troyer/Swingle growing. Good, reliable semi-dwarfing rootstock for us here in California, and still widely used. _________________ Patty S.
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Laaz Site Owner
Joined: 12 Nov 2005 Posts: 5642 Location: Dorchester County, South Carolina
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Posted: Thu 21 Mar, 2013 10:48 pm |
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Definitely not swingle. _________________ Wal-Mart a great place to buy cheap plastic crap ! http://walmartwatch.com/ ...
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hoosierquilt Site Admin
Joined: 25 Oct 2010 Posts: 970 Location: Vista, California USA
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Posted: Thu 21 Mar, 2013 11:15 pm |
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Laaz, why do you think it is not Swingle? _________________ Patty S.
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Laaz Site Owner
Joined: 12 Nov 2005 Posts: 5642 Location: Dorchester County, South Carolina
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Posted: Fri 22 Mar, 2013 2:12 am |
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Swingle is large, almost as big as a grapefruit & shaped like a grenade... And yellow, not orange.
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hoosierquilt Site Admin
Joined: 25 Oct 2010 Posts: 970 Location: Vista, California USA
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Posted: Fri 22 Mar, 2013 2:40 am |
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Well, that's definitely not the same as the photos. Interesting. I can't say we've had Rusk rootstock here ever. At least, not that I'm aware of. Or, within the last 20 years anyway. Great ID, Laaz. _________________ Patty S.
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citrange Site Admin
Joined: 24 Nov 2005 Posts: 589 Location: UK - 15 miles west of London
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Posted: Fri 22 Mar, 2013 7:41 am |
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Patty,
When you wrote "Troyer/Swingle" I think you meant "Troyer/Carrizo".
Swingle, as Laaz shows, is quite different.
The photos posted at the top of this thread match Carrizo.
Rusk, which we agree is unlikely anyway, is somewhat deeper orange and has fewer large seeds
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hoosierquilt Site Admin
Joined: 25 Oct 2010 Posts: 970 Location: Vista, California USA
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Posted: Fri 22 Mar, 2013 11:38 am |
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Yes, sorry! NOT Swingle. Troyer/Carrizo. That's what we see here in California as the vast majority of semi-dwarf rootstock for retail trees. I have never seen Rusk, and Swingle is a standard rootstock (also very popular, but clearly not what this person has). Sorry. That's what I get for trying to do two things at once. Very familiar with Troyer/Carrizo, as it does poorly on my property due to the amount of Phytophthora we have here in our area. C35 is performing much better for me, and is more resistant. We just don't see Rusk here as a rootstock. _________________ Patty S.
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CampoCalle
Joined: 26 Sep 2012 Posts: 22 Location: West Redding, California
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Posted: Fri 22 Mar, 2013 11:04 pm |
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Thanks again everyone! I think we may be closing in on the answer. These fruit are definitely orange and quite round. This little tree is putting on a nice growth flush right now, and is about to bloom. I'll post a few pictures tonight. The seedlings are also doing well and a few of the albinos have started to turn green. I am really looking forward to budding my own trees in the future. |
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CampoCalle
Joined: 26 Sep 2012 Posts: 22 Location: West Redding, California
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Posted: Fri 22 Mar, 2013 11:26 pm |
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Happy Citrange...quite a bit of growth before any flowers open:
Seedlings are doing fine outdoors now (well, not so sure about those albinos):
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