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JoeReal
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Posted: Mon 05 Nov, 2007 2:24 am

This is fantastic year for persimmons. I'm just halfway through. I've had persimmons since last week of August.


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Posted: Mon 05 Nov, 2007 2:25 am

I have a total of 3 medium sized trees, just up to 8 ft high each.


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Posted: Mon 05 Nov, 2007 2:26 am

the fruits this year are so big and so dense!


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Posted: Mon 05 Nov, 2007 2:27 am

They are so heavily staked. Otherwise the trees will break apart!


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Posted: Mon 05 Nov, 2007 2:28 am

I have a total of about 45 persimmon cultivars, with 43 of them grafted together in one tree. A total of only 3 trees. All of the cultivars should fruit next year.


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Posted: Mon 05 Nov, 2007 2:32 am

I have harvested about 6 buckets so far, since end of August (5 gallon per buckets), and this is just last week's harvest. Already I have some Fukushu kumquat in the background, and some Miho Wase Fruits and some Valencias that were 'accidentally' picked by my dog, grrr!. The upper right, you can see various shaped seeds of persimmons from the many cultivars I have tasted almost daily to keep track of their qualities. I would try to germinate these seeds and hope to use them as rootstocks.

I still have about 4 buckets more to go with my persimmons. The astringent types hasn't softened up yet. The Jiro should be ripe soon. The Korean K-4 and K-5 are still slightly green but already edible and sweet, and I am the only one to have those cultivars here in the west, AFAIK. You can still drop by at our house and munch on them! Enjoy. If there's none left when you get here, you sure can enjoy a bottle of persimmon wine!



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Posted: Mon 05 Nov, 2007 2:38 am

Contrary to what many persimmon "gurus" have been suggesting, my over-abundant crop yield of persimmons, came from trees that have only about 4-6 hours of sunshine. They are shaded in the afternoon, receives only morning sunlight. I don't think you would need full sunlight to achieve full production as suggested by the experts. It isn't true in my case.

I recommend that if you receive at least 4 hours of sunshine, Japanese persimmon would still give you over abundant crops if you know how to care for them.
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Posted: Tue 06 Nov, 2007 5:24 am

Joe:
Very impressive sight.
I am glad for you.

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Posted: Wed 05 Dec, 2007 11:40 pm

what do they tast like and what do you use them for? thanks
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Posted: Thu 06 Dec, 2007 2:12 am

I have many cultivars and have varied taste, flavor, texture. This year, all were used for fresh eating, as is or with salad. 2 years ago I made wine and still have many bottles left.
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Posted: Mon 17 Dec, 2007 7:04 pm

I am looking for the 'Giombo' or 'Saijo' varieties in the Los Angeles are. Does anyone know a source?
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Posted: Mon 07 Jan, 2008 6:49 pm

Has anyone grown persimmon in a Zone 8??? Apparently the FUYU variety will grow in the PNW. Joe, thanks for the photos!!! (do you have a FUYU??)

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Posted: Mon 07 Jan, 2008 7:13 pm

Certainly I have Fuyu.
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Posted: Mon 07 Jan, 2008 7:14 pm

persimmon hybrids (native American x Oriental) can be productive down to zone 6.
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Posted: Mon 07 Jan, 2008 11:05 pm

Greg, I grow them in zone 8b and I am sure they are hardy in all of zone 8. This link has some useful info on growing them, and says they are hardy to Z-9: http://www.crfg.org/pubs/ff/persimmon.html

I recently made Persimmon marmalade, using a recipe from the web. Basically a regular marmalade recipe with 1/2 cup lemon juice added. I think mixing in sour citrus, like calamondins, would work well too. The tart taste of citrus adds a lot to the persimmons.

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