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Are there any deciduous Citrus hybrids?

 
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mikkel
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Posted: Sat 08 Feb, 2014 11:12 am

I read about Yuzu and  N1-tri Voß as deciduous hybrids (both listed on Bernhard Voß old Website agrumi-voss).
Are there others?
Is Yuzu always deciduous?
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elsedgwick
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Posted: Sat 08 Feb, 2014 11:48 am

With regards to your second question, Yuzu seems to be evergreen, or at least semi-evergreen here. I suspect it depends on the temperatures they experience.
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mikkel
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Posted: Sat 08 Feb, 2014 1:10 pm

okay. this would explain why it is listed as deciduous when grown in northern germany.
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mikkel
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Posted: Mon 17 Feb, 2014 8:19 pm

I found some hybrids described as deciduous. Has anyone experience with it?

c.ichangensis x trifoliata  N1-tri Voß
X639 Citrandarin
139 Eisenhut
Trifeola
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yuzuquat
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Posted: Tue 18 Feb, 2014 5:48 am

I have most of your deciduous hybrids.

However this year is not the right one to be asking your question here.

We have had a total of 8hrs of frost this year. All for short periods just before dawn with the lowest temperature being -2.7*c (27*f). Day time temperatures being no lower than 5*c and up to 12*c.

Having said that one variety was quicker into leaf fall than poncirus and is more deciduous and I think another has also gone leafless over time.

I will have a look for you and report which plants are leafless and which have lost few if any leaves. A major caveat may be that we have had a stream of storms that have brought hurricane winds and biblical deluges, both of which will have contributed to defoliation.
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mikkel
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Posted: Wed 14 May, 2014 6:23 am

I just read that a TaiTri can be deciduous, at least the one from eyeckr does.
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I just wanted to add this, if someone is interested in this too...
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eyeckr
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Posted: Wed 14 May, 2014 12:25 pm

Great memory Mikkel! You're right the TaiTri is totally deciduous for me. It kind of shocked me when I first started growing it when it dropped its leaves. I thought I killed it or something but realized that it just defoliates and goes into deep dormancy for the winter. I need to go out an look at it again when I get home from work but from memory it has cute, lacy, trifoliate leaves and a purplish buds before they bloom. I expect to have a good number of fruit this year.

My Yuzus are not always deciduous. They usually hold most of their leaves but during extreme winters they will totally defoliate. What I find interesting is that they can not only refoliate the next year but come back and still bloom very well.
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ilyaC
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Posted: Wed 14 May, 2014 4:58 pm

New Spanish rootstock citrandarins FA5 and FA13 are decidous.
Also, sometime ago I got from Roberto budwood of PoncirusXSunki citrandarin. Last autumn its leaves turned yellow, and dropped exactly at the same time as of poncirus.

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